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re: Nadler: You can't impeach president if voters won't support it
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:55 am to boosiebadazz
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:55 am to boosiebadazz
See William J. Clinton.
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:55 am to SDVTiger
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I think there is ample historical record showing what high crimes and misdemeanors meant at the time of the Founders.
Of course there is. Why are you asking what a high crime is, if you know this?
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:57 am to BBONDS25
Because you don’t need a criminal indictment or conviction as a prerequisite to bring Articles.
This post was edited on 6/2/19 at 9:58 am
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:00 am to boosiebadazz
Nope. All you need is McCarthyism, mass psychological hysteria, mountains of Progressive hubris and absolute disregard for the Democratic process/63 million voters/30 states that elected GEOTUS.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:00 am to boosiebadazz
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Because you don’t need a criminal indictment or conviction as a prerequisite to bring Articles.
No...but you still need an alleged crime. I have not seen the argument an indictment is required.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:02 am to boosiebadazz
What part of this is confusing?
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The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:03 am to BBONDS25
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you still need an alleged crime.
Still disagree. You need alleged behavior that he Articles allege arise to HCM, but I’ve not seen anything that requires that alleged behavior to be an actual crime.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:04 am to boosiebadazz
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:10 am to boosiebadazz
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:12 am to boosiebadazz
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Still disagree. You need alleged behavior that he Articles allege arise to HCM, but I’ve not seen anything that requires that alleged behavior to be an actual crime.
That requires you thinking a high crime or misdemeanor includes non-crimes. Which requires ignoring the meaning of the words at the time of its drafting. You, correctly, said that was the criteria that needed to be used.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:13 am to BBONDS25
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A crime.
Reckless driving is a crime, so is shoplifting and reproducing a film without written permission. Maybe you could check his driving record or see if he stole a snickers bar when he was a kid.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:14 am to Jjdoc
40 million dollars and 2 years. All you got to show is a big fricking goose egg. Diag Nads
This post was edited on 6/2/19 at 10:23 am
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:14 am to boosiebadazz
What does the law review article conclude regarding impeachment for non-crimes?
This post was edited on 6/2/19 at 10:15 am
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:14 am to boosiebadazz
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What constitutes high crimes and misdemeanors?
What do the constitute to you?
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:17 am to boosiebadazz
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High crimes and misdemeanors seems like a term of art. What did it mean when the Founders wrote it?
Treason, Bribery, and other things like that.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:22 am to Erin Go Bragh
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Impeachment is a political act
Here I was believing it was a constitutional act.
In proper context it is a Constitutional act.
It can be a political act when used by opportunists.
Just my opinion..others may feel differently..
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:23 am to Jjdoc
Because they want to draw this out for his entire presidency. They might even spring the impeachment weeks before the election to put doubt in people’s mind that if they vote for Trump he might not even be President shortly after the election.
This post was edited on 6/2/19 at 10:24 am
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:23 am to LSU2ALA
“I don’t disagree with Nadler. I don’t think I’m behind impeachment(you are behind impeachment);however, if you truly believe (emotions, fantasy land, extreme bias)he did something impeachable, then you are honor bound to bring the charges. Mueller wouldn’t accuse of a crime because Trump couldn’t defend himself. I wish the Democrats would take the same approach”
Where you sub consciously wrote “if you truly believe...” should have been “if there is clear evidence that....”
This clearly shows that you are not capable of looking at this without somehow always concluding to the side of impeachment.
Where you sub consciously wrote “if you truly believe...” should have been “if there is clear evidence that....”
This clearly shows that you are not capable of looking at this without somehow always concluding to the side of impeachment.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:26 am to boosiebadazz
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Because you don’t need a criminal indictment or conviction as a prerequisite to bring Articles.
I'll just leave this here.
"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of,"
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