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re: My hero Javier Milei releases lengthy statement on tariffs
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:47 pm to RollTide4547
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:47 pm to RollTide4547
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Self Interest? -- Everyone has their self-interest at heart, no matter what they may say.
Then you should be agreeing with every damn thing I have posted here.
Trump is pushing for "collective wealth collection" in a time we dont collect wealth, we GROW it.
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Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:48 pm to The Baker
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Ridiculous take.
No, your take that Humnans are not capable of bettering themselves without govt protections is ridiculous and very wrong.
You have to be a Democrat.
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Trump is pushing for "collective wealth collection" in a time we dont collect wealth, we GROW it.
And you are advocating to minimize growth, rather than maximize.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Theyre only punishing themselves, I dont give a frick what they do.
We know YOU don't. But American companies do. This thread isn't about how Roger is affected.
And if you dont' care what they do, then you shouldn't care when they remove their tariff on our goods. Because you know who will care when that happens? Businesses that trade with Canada and receive more revenue.
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Not at all. I was military and sometimes we have to sacrifice. It could have been necessary for me to die in defense of my country and I was fine with that. The best interest of America and American citizens is my best interest. Stopping the bully, even if it hurts me personally is in my best interest.
Then you should be agreeing with every damn thing I have posted here.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:52 pm to BugAC
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And you are advocating to minimize growth,
Just the opposite. Your vaunted tariffs will shrink the economy.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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No, your take that Humnans are not capable of bettering themselves without govt protections is ridiculous and very wrong.
You have to be a Democrat.
At least I know how to read books. Maybe better yourself and get educated on the matter of Taiwan and TSMC.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:53 pm to BugAC
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But American companies do
Remember the 1980s? Reagan protected American auto makers from Japanese imports?
Do you remember what the result was?
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I see the MAGA folks are not enjoying this thread very much, and are avoiding.
This one ain't even that hard. Milei is absolutely correct. The perfect world is one without tariffs.
This doesn't remotely conflict with Trump's position.
It would be a great world if nobody punched each other too. But, if someone punches me, so I punch them back, this doesn't negate my basic premise that it would be better if no one punched each other.
Why is this shite so damned hard for people to grasp?
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:55 pm to The Baker
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At least I know how to read books.
Evidently not.
Adding govt intervention in the markets is stifling. If you could read, this would be very easily verifiable.
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Although the U.S. gained some manufacturing jobs from the tariff as appliance makers built factories in the U.S., they were costly—consumers collectively paid about $820,000 per job created.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:57 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
quote:Exactly. You deal with the bully by bullying him BACK!
It would be a great world if nobody punched each other too. But, if someone punches me, so I punch them back, this doesn't negate my basic premise that it would be better if no one punched each other.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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No, your take that Humnans are not capable of bettering themselves without govt protections is ridiculous and very wrong.
You have to be a Democrat.
You're so simplistic.
US will succeed without retaliatory tariffs. They will succeed greater with trade imbalances corrected. You are ok with the status quo because Trump. I get it. The country was not. Which is why you were outvoted. Which is why retaliatory tariffs were implemented. Because the country voted for it.
If you have no ambition, then i can understand why you don't care. You even admitted you don't care because you are old, retired, and you can't benefit because you won't live long enough to take advantage of it, or you just don't know how. The country, collectively, is not stubborn and elderly. Thus, the future is for the young. It's why they/we are in charge of things. You can be elderly and also want what's best for the future of our country even if you don't personally benefit from it. Being against this is just narcissism. Your posts telling everyone you know more than they do just accentuates that you suffer from this mental disease.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:57 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
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But, if someone punches me, so I punch them back
Bad analogy.
Whats really happening is that two businessmen strike a deal, and govt decides to intervene and overrule the private transactions.
It adds cost, reduces GDP, innovation and competition
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:57 pm to BugAC
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US will succeed without retaliatory tariffs
Thrive.
As we have. Do you know why?
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Bad analogy.
Whats really happening is that two businessmen strike a deal, and govt decides to intervene and overrule the private transactions.
It adds cost, reduces GDP, innovation and competition
I know what impact tariffs have which is why I agree with Milei.
I also know that quite often, you can't just sit on your hands as a nation if a competitor nation imposes them. But, the GOAL is to punish the frickers into killing the tariffs. Not to keep tariffs forever.
Just like me punching back is designed to STOP the punching.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Is it possible that there's a difference between the economies of a country with 47 million people and per capita gdp of $14k vs one with 340 million and $65k?
It's almost like one country needs external money much more than the other.
This is the problem with the anti-tariff crowd. They were told "tariffs = higher prices," and their simple brains can't comprehend that economies are complex ecosystems with thousands of variables. They can only think in basic terms with a maximum of one input and one output.
It's the same level of logic that says increasing taxes is the only way to increase tax revenue. We know that is wrong.
Another thing the idiots fail to recognize is innovation. America leads in innovation, but we need experience to do that. Buying all of our crap overseas from drone-like communists prevents Americans from advancing our methods. Innovation primarily comes from people within an industry, but when all these industries are pushed away to foreign countries for cheap labor, innovation dies. Anti-tariff people really have trouble seeing the big picture with their surface-level thinking.
It's almost like one country needs external money much more than the other.
This is the problem with the anti-tariff crowd. They were told "tariffs = higher prices," and their simple brains can't comprehend that economies are complex ecosystems with thousands of variables. They can only think in basic terms with a maximum of one input and one output.
It's the same level of logic that says increasing taxes is the only way to increase tax revenue. We know that is wrong.
Another thing the idiots fail to recognize is innovation. America leads in innovation, but we need experience to do that. Buying all of our crap overseas from drone-like communists prevents Americans from advancing our methods. Innovation primarily comes from people within an industry, but when all these industries are pushed away to foreign countries for cheap labor, innovation dies. Anti-tariff people really have trouble seeing the big picture with their surface-level thinking.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Not when those countries fold, remove their tarriffs and we remove ours.
Your vaunted tariffs will shrink the economy.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:01 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
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I know what impact tariffs have which is why I agree with Milei.
Why does govt need to usurp private authority and add cost to our imports?
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:02 pm to RollTide4547
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Not when those countries fold
China is doomed by their one child policy and central planning (tariffs are central planning) and there is no saving them.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:It shouldn't.
Why does govt need to usurp private authority and add cost to our imports?
Alas, American voters cannot control the governments of other nations.
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