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re: My first "I hate roads" Thread of 2017 (Trigger Warning: Meme Inside)
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:23 pm to MrLarson
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:23 pm to MrLarson
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the basic physical and organizational structures and facilities (e.g., buildings, roads, and power supplies) needed for the operation of a society or enterprise.
this was not the intention of "eminent domain"
this whole corporatism movement started with Kelo. i don't even think Kelo is 20 years old
if you're going to argue for ED, i suggest you keep it to actually public endeavors and not private parties using government to steal property from individuals. you're going to offend people to my side if you go down that road
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:23 pm to MrCarton
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You can come tear up my 200 meter driveway
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:24 pm to MrLarson
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:24 pm to MrCarton
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I'm trying to help you not look retarded right now.
Take the help man. For your own good.
Naw man. Humans often act contrary to their own good. Drugs, alcohol, the ShamWow, suicide, all of it wouldn't exist if humans were rational beings.
Emotion guides people and then we explain our choices afterwards and make it sound like we thought something through.
The market is simply a construct which exists to assign value to goods based on the availability and demand. Whether it is rational to demand something is absolutely beside the point.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:27 pm to cokebottleag
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Naw man. Humans often act contrary to their own good.
you can act 100% rationally and still make a choice that is counter to your interests
life is a game of incomplete information and asymmetrical information
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i don't know if we're going to go far if you flatly reject that free market require rational actors
Look, let's get back on topic here. 'free markets' and the human condition of rational actions vs irrational actions (because we're about to go down into some philosophical definitions as to what constitutes rational) isn't what I thought we were discussing.
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i think you've gone a bit far b/c i don't think we have anything close to an agreement on what "infrastructure" is
So, let's back up, because I do want to talk about this.
What is your basic premise regarding roads?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:31 pm to joshnorris14
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That's a very nice Not An Argument you have there
History is my argument.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i just want less government
lol
Me too, but it simply isn't going to happen.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:33 pm to cokebottleag
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I'm trying to help you not look retarded right now.
Take the help man. For your own good.
Naw man. Humans often act contrary to their own good. Drugs, alcohol, the ShamWow, suicide, all of it wouldn't exist if humans were rational beings.
Emotion guides people and then we explain our choices afterwards and make it sound like we thought something through.
The market is simply a construct which exists to assign value to goods based on the availability and demand. Whether it is rational to demand something is absolutely beside the point.
I largely agree with you, but you need to be more precise with your terms.
"Economically rational" (homo economicus) is the more precise term.
Human beings make a lot of decisions that do not maximize their economic value.
Kahneman and Tversky became famous because of a lot of this. It's why a lot of different types of marketing has come into being.
The Austrians still haven't quite dealt effectively with a lot of this (behavioral economics), as it wasn't really a cogent approach until the 1970's. The typical response (and what you see from behavioral economists who tend towards an Austrian bent) is that the government is no more rational than individual agents and that local irrationalities are best dealt with locally. Probably true but lots of contention.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:36 pm to cokebottleag
i'm not ignoring you.
i'm shifting gears but i may be back in a lil bit
i'm shifting gears but i may be back in a lil bit
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
No prob, I'll try to remember to return.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:39 pm to MrCarton
quote:Would you mind summarizing your general "stance"? It seems as if you have a lot of local experience in the middle east which leads you to often correct the misperceptions of less-informed Americans. This further seems to be misinterpreted as you somehow being soft on radical Islam.
I haven't listened, but ill add him now and get back to you
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:11 pm to cokebottleag
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Naw man. Humans often act contrary to their own good. Drugs, alcohol, the ShamWow, suicide, all of it wouldn't exist if humans were rational beings.
SMH.
People do those things because they value that choice over other choices. No matter how dumb you might think that decision, it is still a rational decision. You are making value judgements here.
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Emotion guides people and then we explain our choices afterwards and make it sound like we thought something through.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the notion that all human action is rational. Being emotional doesn't preclude someone from rational behavior.
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The market is simply a construct which exists to assign value to goods based on the availability and demand. Whether it is rational to demand something is absolutely beside the point.
so muh roads?
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:13 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Would you mind summarizing your general "stance"? It seems as if you have a lot of local experience in the middle east which leads you to often correct the misperceptions of less-informed Americans. This further seems to be misinterpreted as you somehow being soft on radical Islam.
Sure man! Ill take a listen this evening.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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then you don't understand what "we the people" means
"we the people" means we're going to elect someone to represent us to the construction companies because 320,000,000 people trying to negotiate individually with contractors would be unworkable.
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