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re: Musk promise

Posted on 4/25/22 at 6:19 pm to
Posted by umrebel2009
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Posted on 4/25/22 at 6:19 pm to
Cant wait to see all the Democrat propaganda tweets go from tens of thousands of positive comments from bots turn into tweets with 10 human comments
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74989 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 6:20 pm to
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Musk has to know this, and the potential risks.


Yep.

Alexa, who is the biggest subcontractor for the US Dept of Defense?
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30934 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 6:20 pm to
Gonna have to take it private because the stock will dive when it's exposed that a huge chunk of accounts are bots.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
74989 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 6:21 pm to
Total astroturfed narrative.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3197 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 6:43 pm to
I hope Musk has is back protected. It is no secret that the Biden Administration, Liberals, and deep state do not like him and will set him up for massive failure if possible.

So, when Musk takes ownership is he then liable for all Twitter violations of the past as well? If he exposes manipulation/corruption of past twitter will that all blow right back on him as the responsible party financially?

I can certainly see the DOJ and Democrat party suddenly being concerned about all the censorship and user manipulations to the point to the DOJ opening investigations and trying to extort billions from Musk in settlements.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 6:48 pm to
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No one here is an anarchist so what point do you think you’re making?


But everyone thinks government is incompetent and needs to shrink, reduce regulation and that private businesses should be able to run their business as they see fit.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 6:50 pm to
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I'll take a few regulations that inhibit tyranny.


How about we just don't patronize social media?

Or how about we start our own social media (Truth, Gettr, Gab) and run it like we see fit?
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15004 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 7:27 pm to
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How about we just don't patronize social media?

Or how about we


How about we leave other people's children out of our sexual deviance?

How about we just go to a different bakery if the owner doesn't want to serve us?

How about we have our pervert parade and not care if straight parents bring their children?

How about if we quit funding abortions with tax payer money?

How about we mind our own business regarding other people's diets?

How about we get whatever shots we want and mind our own business regarding other people?

How about we go back in the closet whenever we feel like straight people don't adore us enough?

How about we respect one another enough to let everyone have their constitutional rights?

How about we compete on a level playing field in sports rather than catering to the delusions of a mental patient?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74989 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 8:16 pm to
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quote: I think the biggest win in all of this might be Musk's promise to make the algorithm public. Total transparency. If it uncovers the blatant corruption I think it will, we might see legislation under a new majority which requires platforms to disclose their algorithms in order to maintain their section 230 protections.

How will the NSA/CIA adjust?


NSA? Not so much, IMO.

CIA? They'll just stir up shite somewhere else in an effort to change the news cycle. Personally, I think as we get closer to bigger developments from Durham, we're practically guaranteed to see Elizabeth II's death. The MSM is working overtime to do all they can to enamor re American people of those overrated inbreds as it is. They'll hold up their end of the bargain.

The DIA is the only IC member that I trust completely. Why? Dong Jinwei.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10266 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 1:53 am to
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The "algorithm" is just a scoring and sorting function, what exactly is it you think you're going to discover?


That certain points of view are scored lower and even shadowbanned, perhaps?
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10266 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 2:02 am to
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You're right, I forgot everything always flows back to a massive conspiracy involving 1000s, if not 100s of 1000s of people.


Why do you think it would take 1000s of people to accomplish this? Do you think the UI devs know what the algorithm is? The marketers? Secretaries? Customer service? Code is compartmentalized. It could be 10 people in the company that truly know the algorithm. They report to the PM that reports to one or 2 execs, who report to one or 2 govt spooks. It wouldn't take anywhere close to a thousand people.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14804 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 6:52 am to
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That certain points of view are scored lower and even shadowbanned, perhaps?


Then you don't want to see "the algorithm," you want to see the inputs to that data. Which is generated by a classifier that uses a model. The model uses training data. That's what you want to see. The raw tweets labeled as "bad" or whatever as training data.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 7:41 am to
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Actually, it's 100% true that if you could see the algorithm you'd have a better chance of gaming it.


It isn't source code.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14804 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 7:44 am to
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It isn't source code.


What, exactly, do you think an algorithm is?

It is a function that takes input and transforms it into output.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 7:46 am to
An algorithm is basically just a single module, or set of instructions, used in a vast ocean of source code, in layman's terms. You can do nothing with an algorithm alone. It informs the code.
This post was edited on 4/26/22 at 7:49 am
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14804 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 7:48 am to
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An algorithm is basically just a single module in a vast ocean of source code, in layman's terms. You can do nothing with an algorithm alone.


But it *is* source code.

And if you read what I've said the whole time, it's not very interesting on its own.

The classification labels and training data would be the most illuminating thing.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 7:49 am to
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Like what?

Do you remember the websites with all the wording embedded to hit keywords on searches?

Knowledge is power and social media is about controlling the flow of information. He may give it up initially, but he will pull it back for the right amount of money.
This post was edited on 4/26/22 at 7:51 am
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 7:50 am to
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But it *is* source code.


Algorithm isn't code, that's what I've been saying.

It's like plans on a whiteboard.

It isnt actual code:

This post was edited on 4/26/22 at 7:50 am
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14804 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 7:51 am to
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Algorithm isn't code, that's what I've been saying.

It's like plans on a whiteboard.

It isnt actual code:


How do you think algorithms are applied to software? Hint: they're converted into code.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 7:52 am to
At that point yes, but its still not code and does nothing on it's own.
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