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re: Mortality rate as of yesterday is 1.2%

Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:11 am to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:11 am to
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So even if corona is no more deadly than seasonal flu, it is way more dangerous. Left to its own devices, most of us would get it and quite a few people would die even if it didn’t tax our healthcare system. But it probably would
all good reasons to do something. Not good reasons to do every f****** thing
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:13 am to
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Unless someone can show that most of the 26k cases are new.


Seeing that symptom onset is at 4-5 days, the positive tests are likely mostly new.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:14 am to
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Ok, this is not the flu. While the flu is infectious and kills thousands every year, the curve of infections is slow because many people get vaccinated and many people have immunity to the particular flu that goes around.


The flu kills thousands of people each year and the stupid vaccine is really not even the correct strain most of the time.

There may never be a vaccine for this, even so, we're talking probably in terms of years to never.
More people will die from this... this year than the flu.

Faster testing is better but will not help the situation, generally speaking everyone is going to get this.

In the meantime, this stupid shutdown crap will eventually completely destroy the financial system, one day you probably wake up to no stock market, shutdown of the banking system and your atm card. This will start to lead to a Mad Max reset.... and for no real reason.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:14 am to
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Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
21574 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:15 am to
Now I’m depressed.
Posted by tgdawg68
Georgia
Member since Dec 2019
768 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:15 am to
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Here is a fact for you to chew on, this will kill more Americans that 911 or Pearl Harbor before it ends, were those "statistically insignificant" as well?



This is so damned stupid. The 'normal' flu kills more every year and we dont compare to 911. This is a serious problem and we are taking drastic action. There is a path out of this (see South Korea) so we dont need useless fear mongering.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:18 am to
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I wish more people would understand why corona is dangerous. It has everything to do with how quickly and easily it spreads. And that’s because we have little natural immunity and no vaccinations.

So even if corona is no more deadly than seasonal flu, it is way more dangerous. Left to its own devices, most of us would get it and quite a few people would die even if it didn’t tax our healthcare system. But it probably would.


More people will be impacted by the flu this year than this and more people will die from the flu this year. The vast majority of people don't even know they have this.

Taxing the hospital is meaningless.. if you have to go to the hospital for this... you're basically going there to be put in the body bag, or the vast majority are. If you have to put on a vent the death rate is 95%+... so the hospital is basically worthless.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:19 am to
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And we might be doing too much. But also Americans are stupid and don’t know how to moderate. We could safely keep our economy churning if we were more disciplined but we aren’t

Cure is worse than the disease.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18881 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:19 am to
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Here is a fact for you to chew on, this will kill more Americans that 911 or Pearl Harbor before it ends, were those "statistically insignificant" as well?
the flu kills more than died in Pearl harbor every year too you idiot


And we didnt run when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor and we arent running now....sorry couldnt help myself, the thread needs a little levity.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:20 am to
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It has everything to do with how quickly and easily it spreads.


r0 is less than seasonal flu.

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And that’s because we have little natural immunity and no vaccinations.


Herd immunity.

Again, my position is that we should be concerned. However we should not panic. Panic is the enemy of rational thought. During these times, rational thought should be of paramount importance. Science is objective. Politics are subjective.
Posted by tgdawg68
Georgia
Member since Dec 2019
768 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:20 am to
As above, useless fear mongering with no credible evidence to back it up.
Posted by MexicanTiger97
Member since May 2018
998 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:21 am to
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More people die of heart disease than murder so is murder now somehow acceptable?


No, but we don't destroy our economy and peoples' lives over murder either.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69895 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:23 am to
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Here is a fact for you to chew on, this will kill more Americans that 911 or Pearl Harbor before it ends, were those "statistically insignificant" as well?


Common Flu: 34,157 deaths in 2019
Antietam: 3,650 deaths
9/11: 2,996 deaths
D-Day: 2,501 deaths
Pearl Harbor attack: 2,403 deaths
Chinese Coronavirus: 348 deaths as of 3/21
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125695 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:24 am to
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Taxing the hospital is meaningless.. if you have to go to the hospital for this... you're basically going there to be put in the body bag, or the vast majority are. If you have to put on a vent the death rate is 95%+... so the hospital is basically worthless.


You keep repeating this.

If everyone on a vent on this disease dies, then the mortality rate is going to be higher than 1.23% because some people will die who don’t go on a vent. I hope that’s not the case.

Hospitalization is estimated to occur in 4.4% of cases. If the vast majority of those people are going to be put in a body bag, then we’re looking at a CFR north of 2%.

Would you like to stop saying this nonsense?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52919 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:25 am to
Are the terms not interchangeable?

I just picked it be 1918 pandemic is fewer letters than Spanish Flu pandemic on a phone keyboard.

Random factoid: Spanish flu actually didn’t come from Spain. It’s just that everyone else was suppressing bad news for war morale so all of the news that people heard about it at first was from Spain
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 8:32 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125695 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:26 am to
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Chinese Coronavirus: 348 deaths as of 3/21


It’s meaningless to repeat this number at this point. 1) You have to rewrite your memes all the time when you use the death numbers in them. 2) That number was under 50 a few days ago. We will be adding around 300 a day to it within 10 days.
Posted by tgdawg68
Georgia
Member since Dec 2019
768 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:28 am to
Because he gets a kick out of stoking unwarranted fear or he is a total moron ... Well, he's a moron either way.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69895 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:28 am to
The Spanish Flu most likely originated in Kansas. The ironic thing is that it began in the middle of bum-eff nowhere and would have stayed that way if it wasn't for the fact that we had entered the First World War. Fort Riley, Kansas was built, a couple of boys from ground zero of the pandemic went there for basic training, and the rest is history.

Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:29 am to
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Would you like to stop saying this nonsense?


Its right here you frick face.

LINK

Only the old and very sick are dying from this, the rest are outlining cases.

70% have two more pre-existing conditions like fat as frick, diabetes, heart disease, etc. 99.1% have at least one pre-existing condition.

LINK

Once these fat fricks hit the hospital chances are they won't be coming back, if these fat old fricks are put on a vent almost guarantee death.

You can get this, and be tested and not be admitted to the hospital. Literally people like you are stupid as frick.

This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 8:32 am
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:30 am to
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This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 5:58 pm
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