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re: Morning Consult released 33 minutes ago. Trump leads 70% on issues

Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:51 pm to
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Interesting, you keep bringing up President Trump

It's poignant when this is still, at its heart, a discussion of "conservatives" who promote Leftism because that's Trump.

But, "conservative" has been redefined by Patriots so that Trump isn't a Leftist...again, the point of the discussion in this whole thread.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:52 pm to
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Trump's biggest complaint was that we didn't spend more
I don't recall that. He did initially say that we should protect the elderly/vulnerable and let everyone else get and get over covid to get herd immunity. He was absolutely correct on that issue and democrats were absolutely wrong.

Do you wish you were plowing with a mule today?
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:54 pm to
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poignant
Did someone get a new thesaurus app for the phone? Redefined or not, you are left tard who only thinks of itself. Like a child, wants all the benefits and NONE of the drawbacks.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13146 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:55 pm to
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Not wasting my time on a hack who wants to lie every step of the way.



They start calling people names when they've lost conversation. They don't understand that to change the system, you have to change the people.

I can guarantee you, that when their turn comes around and, they apply for SS/MC they will smile and cash those checks.

BOOK IT.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:56 pm to
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I don't recall that.


LINK

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President Donald Trump threatened on Tuesday to not sign an $892 billion coronavirus relief bill that includes desperately needed money for individual Americans, saying it should be amended to increase the amount in the stimulus checks.


Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:57 pm to
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My dedication to the truth is second only to my desire to get all the benefits with NONE of the drawbacks
There, fixed it for ya.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:57 pm to
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you are left tard




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Like a child, wants all the benefits and NONE of the drawbacks.

Giving up 20 years of taxes for nothing is sort of a drawback, don't you think?

Also, my plan is to give up almost all benefits. How is that "wanting ALL the benefits"? Explain that to me.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:59 pm to
Running on the issue to cut SS is probably the dumbest political advice ever.

If Ron is making the issue of saving SS by cutting it he is a dead man walking. Any politician running on cutting SS is completely out of touch with the electorate.

I'm not talking about he merits of cutting SS. I'm taking about running on the issue of cutting SS to save it.

A little friendly advice, stay away from this issue and make other issues front and center.

If Ron sets a policy position on cutting SS in the primary (and if he somehow wins) this will carry over to the general and he will get killed on the issue.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13146 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 1:00 pm to
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The entire point of this argument is to have people admit they are promoting Leftism.


I'm promoting getting my money back by any means.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 1:00 pm to
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$892 billion coronavirus relief bill that includes desperately needed money for individual Americans, saying it should be amended to increase the amount in the stimulus checks.
He wanted more for the American Citizen. That doesn't mean he wanted the total spent to be more. The American Citizen could get more money in the stimulus checks and LESS money be given to government programs. Afterall, it was the government that encouraged the shutdowns, thanks to the recommendations of the "experts". Don't you pretend to be smart?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 1:00 pm to
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I'm promoting getting my money back by any means.


Translated:

I'm not a real conservative and I'll sell out my beliefs for money
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 1:01 pm to
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Running on the issue to cut SS is probably the dumbest political advice ever.

So Leftism is OK as long as it gets you elected?

Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13146 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 1:01 pm to
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LOLOL!!! Does that mean Trump has lost every argument then?


Trump has nothing to do with it.

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This is all so embarrassing.


What is?
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13146 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 1:02 pm to
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I'm not a real conservative and I'll sell out my beliefs for money


So be it, however, it is my money like any and all taxes taken from me.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 1:03 pm to
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How is that "wanting ALL the benefits"? Explain that to me.
There are multiple definitions and/or examples of benefits. Sometimes those benefits are in the form of a check from the gov't. Other times those benefits are in the form of having a better way of life. You want the benefit of not having to pay as much to the gov't (by denying earned benefits to those that came before you). Again, don't you pretend to be smart?
Posted by Knartfocker
Member since Jun 2020
1656 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 1:03 pm to
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I absolutely help build this nation. I have never collected a day of welfare. Paid my taxes every payday. The younger generation is better off because of the older generations, no doubt about it.


Cool. Good job getting us to where we are today. At least a boomer actually admits to having a hand in the current state of affairs. But which part of that entitles you to my money?

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No, sounds like you only think of yourself. It is common with young people


You were the one that equated parenting to an entitlement program

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by tivey6301
Do you owe your parents anything for raising you? Or was that just another "redistributive entitlement program"?


Really explains a lot
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 1:04 pm to
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Giving up 20 years of taxes for nothing is sort of a drawback, don't you think?
But you want others to give up 50+ years of taxes so that you don't have pay as much. Seems like more of a drawback. Again, you think like an adolescent teenager. Me me me, my my my.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 1:05 pm to
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You want the benefit of not having to pay as much to the gov't

And giving up 20 years of taxes.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 1:06 pm to
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Again, you think like an adolescent teenager. Me me me, my my my.


Explain to me why you think you deserve to get SS/Medicare benefits again?

Try not to explain it like an "adolescent teenager", so you can't talk about what you've already paid or contributed to society b/c that's a big "me me my my my" argument.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 1:07 pm to
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And giving up 20 years of taxes
but you don't seem worried about those that have to give up 30,40,50+ years of SS taxes... Thinking of yourself like an adolescent teenager.
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