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re: More ships in Venezuela at risk of seizure

Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3640 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:25 pm to
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+ Russian subs start creeping in


+5 times the amount of USA subs monitoring them.

Much better subs. Much better.

They need to leave our hemisphere.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:25 pm to
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That Biden did. That isn’t what you’re arguing though.

Its what my entire argument is about.

Dont blame me because you people didnt read the entire thread and had a knee jerk reaction.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27636 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:28 pm to
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What of it? International Law? Who’s gonna enforce it?

Fair enough. We should be clear to our own people about what we are doing.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3640 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:28 pm to
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Well, it can't be that. Deep State Donnie promised no new wars. And the cult will tell you, he never lies.


There will not be war.

You know this. You just like to posture.

Like our enemies.

I know you secretly want a war but you won’t get it. Once America started looking out for itself the whole world took notice.

I know this is bad news for you but elections have consequences

Donnie 9 inch hates wars.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 8:29 pm
Posted by CapnKangaroo
Member since Dec 2025
484 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:30 pm to
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Fair enough. We should be clear to our own people about what we are doing.


Seems the administration is being very clear.

We seized a known smuggling vessel for sanctioned Iranian and Venezuelan oil in international waters with the intent on putting pressure on the Maduro regime. Even got a warrant for it and everything.
Posted by CapnKangaroo
Member since Dec 2025
484 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:31 pm to
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There will not be war.


Eh. There could be one. But I don’t think Trump will make the mistake of a protracted ground campaign if it comes it that.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3640 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:32 pm to
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Eh. There could be one. But I don’t think Trump will make the mistake of a protracted ground campaign if it comes it that.


It would a skirmish and it would last 2 hours real time
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
Member since Nov 2009
20518 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:33 pm to
"The oil vessel Skipper was sanctioned in 2022 by the U.S. Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) for being part of a global fleet smuggling Iranian oil, linked to networks involving Hezbollah and Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps-Quds Force (IRGC-QF)"

So yes, we can legally seize it. We can also keep the oil but it has to go through a forfeiture process.
Posted by CapnKangaroo
Member since Dec 2025
484 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:34 pm to
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It would a skirmish and it would last 2 hours real time


A short war is still a war
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
1930 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:35 pm to
You just said Trump did it to steal and fill our oil reserves. These ships are going ghost to take oil and supplies to countries we have sanctions on.
Posted by CapnKangaroo
Member since Dec 2025
484 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:36 pm to
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You just said Trump did it to steal and fill our oil reserves.


He didn’t actually say that. He was responding to a guy that suggested we keep the oil to replenish our reserves
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66986 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:37 pm to
That reads exactly like Dubya era propaganda. I can’t believe people are falling for this garbage.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:37 pm to
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You just said Trump did it to steal and fill our oil reserves.


No I didnt. What is wrong with you?

I responded to a guy who said he wanted Trump to take Venezuelan oil to fill our SPR

Its hard to believe so many of you dont actually read or comprehend what is written right in front of you
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38137 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:38 pm to
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Once America started looking out for itself the whole world took notice.
The whole world is beginning to take notice that our fiat currency has no value. That's why increasing number of countries are dealing oil in currency other than the dollar. And that's why the Deep State must conduct regime change in Venezuela. I just hope it doesn't take 20-plus years like it just did in the Middle East.
Another question to ponder. Why is Trump leading the charge?

quote:

I know this is bad news for you but elections have consequences
Elections are controlled by the Deep State. You are only given the false impression that you have a say-so, so that'll you continue to play their game, which is to continue for us to use their fiat currency, and work our asses off to pay taxes while remaining in debt as we keep the elite in charge.

That's how the game is played. That's how the game has always been played.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3640 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:38 pm to
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A short war is still a war


I beg to differ. We had many skirmishes

The MSM labeled them

Don’t bitch at me
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
1930 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:39 pm to
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That reads exactly like Dubya era propaganda. I can’t believe people are falling for this garbage.


Easily proven with the ships port locations. It’s a proven fact these cargo ships are going ghost to countries we have sanctions on.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66986 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:40 pm to
“linked to networks” is word salad BS the MIC can use to justify any intervention.
Posted by CapnKangaroo
Member since Dec 2025
484 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:41 pm to
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I beg to differ. We had many skirmishes The MSM labeled them Don’t bitch at me


I’m not bitching at anyone. I just use words the way they were meant to be used because I’m familiar with the English language. If the the militaries of the US and Venezuela engage in armed conflict that is by definition a war. Personally I wouldn’t hate it.

Venezuela is way too close to Russia and China and they live in our neighborhood.

Venezuela has a lot of oil.

The Maduro family is involved in the drug trade.

Good enough reasons for a war if you ask me.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38137 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:41 pm to
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"The oil vessel Skipper was sanctioned in 2022 by the U.S. Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) for being part of a global fleet smuggling Iranian oil, linked to networks involving Hezbollah and Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps-Quds Force (IRGC-QF)"
Code for: oil that wasn't traded in U.S. dollars.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3640 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:41 pm to
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That reads exactly like Dubya era propaganda. I can’t believe people are falling for this garbage


That’s just silly

You should be embarrassed
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