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re: Minneapolis police chief and other officers testified against Chauvin
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:46 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:46 pm to Big Scrub TX
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kneel for minutes on an arrestees neck
You still think he was putting pressure on the neck?
Lulz
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:49 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:Fine. Name the exact part of his upper body that was being knelt on and I'll only use that from now on.
You still think he was putting pressure on the neck?
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:50 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posting here for your "good information" question since that other one got locked
1. EMS testified airway was patent and no issues intubating due to trauma - correlates with ME report
2. Floyd's GF testified he overdosed and was hospitalized months earlier with the same symptoms (foaming at the mouth, etc)
3. Entire MPD has testified Chauvin broke protocol
probably the top findings at this point, at least in my opinion. Someone else can add, obviously
1. EMS testified airway was patent and no issues intubating due to trauma - correlates with ME report
2. Floyd's GF testified he overdosed and was hospitalized months earlier with the same symptoms (foaming at the mouth, etc)
3. Entire MPD has testified Chauvin broke protocol
probably the top findings at this point, at least in my opinion. Someone else can add, obviously
This post was edited on 4/5/21 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:51 pm to Turbeauxdog
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You still think he was putting pressure on the neck?
Lulz
What i saw in the video was knee on the back, and side of neck. Either way, it was weight on someone's upper respirator area. Go try and breath when someone's body weight is on you. Especially if you are amped up, or in Floyds case on his way into respiratory/cardiac distress.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:52 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Fine. Name the exact part of his upper body that was being knelt on and I'll only use that from now on.
Sure, his back. I'll even go as far to say my guess is it was not even chauvins hold that killed him. It was the junior officer that was squarely on his back.
But that doesn't meet your emotional needs im sure.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:52 pm to udtiger
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the court committed error allowing their testimony
oh i'm sure it was just a mistake
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:53 pm to Tiguar
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1. EMS testified airway was patent and no issues intubating due to trauma - correlates with ME report
I asked this in the whacked thread.
When was EMS called/dispatched? Was it after GF complained of breathing issues, and collapsed wile cuffed with the first officers who pulled him out of his car. Or were they called after Chauvin and Co. got involved?
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:54 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:You sure have a lot of assumptions - seemingly based on pure emotion.
Sure, his back. I'll even go as far to say my guess is it was not even chauvins hold that killed him. It was the junior officer that was squarely on his back.
But that doesn't meet your emotional needs im sure.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:56 pm to Tiguar
quote:What should the takeaway from that be? (also, why was the other one locked?)
1. EMS testified airway was patent and no issues intubating due to trauma - correlates with ME report
quote:Is anyone doubting the overdose story? To me, that has the potential to weaken the defense.
2. Floyd's GF testified he overdosed and was hospitalized months earlier with the same symptoms (foaming at the mouth, etc)
quote:And is this a pre-req to convicting under the statute, or just "other evidence"?
3. Entire MPD has testified Chauvin broke protocol
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:57 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Maybe they talked about his long history of disciplinary actions
Oh...so to cause undue prejudice and inflame the jury?
This is an appellate lawyer's dream.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:58 pm to Big Scrub TX
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And is this a pre-req to convicting under the statute, or just "other evidence"?
The prosecution can sleep walk through this trial and get a conviction. They juror's are probably worried about getting doxed/assaulted/ruined/killed after the trial if they don't convict. They are so worried about that, they will convict if there was audio of GF saying he swallowed the dope, and that the cop isn't killing him.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:58 pm to Big Scrub TX
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seemingly based on pure emotion.
Nah I watched the videos. People in neck holds typically can't repeatedly lift their heads up.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:59 pm to udtiger
quote:Sure whatever. Is the defense not allowed to bring up Floyd's past/character?
Oh...so to cause undue prejudice and inflame the jury?
Posted on 4/5/21 at 5:00 pm to Big Scrub TX
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What should the takeaway from that be? (also, why was the other one locked?)
What do YOU think the take away should be?
quote:
To me, that has the potential to weaken the defense.
Not when you and everyone else is muh neck knee
quote:
And is this a pre-req to convicting under the statute, or just "other evidence"?
Looks like trying to establish fault with Chauvin and not the PD. Can't really convict Chauvin if he was following protocol to the letter.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 5:01 pm to Big Scrub TX
You know a lot about these incidents because of your white guilt
How many PSI was placed on your hero’s neck?
How many PSI was placed on your hero’s neck?
Posted on 4/5/21 at 5:02 pm to Northwestern tiger
Its all up to a jury!
Posted on 4/5/21 at 5:05 pm to Northwestern tiger
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He is going to get convicted
Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Shame so many folks are rooting for this pos.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 5:06 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Sure whatever. Is the defense not allowed to bring up Floyd's past/character?
Does it surprise you that there are limits on the admissibility of such evidence? We want to convict people on whether they actually committed the crime they are charged with, not whether they are the "kind of guy" who might have.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 5:07 pm to Northwestern tiger
The police chief admitted his knee was on Floyd's shoulder, not kneck. This is not the first big win for the defense.
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