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re: Minimum wage boost blocked in the Senate
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:11 pm to pistolpete23
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:11 pm to pistolpete23
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after which automatic annual increases in the minimum wage would be executed to account for inflation
So.........raising minimum wage annually will do what for the inflation rate for all the rest of the workers in USA not making minimum wage and getting yearly increases?? Hmmmm.....
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:22 pm to pistolpete23
Two comments about this magical poverty line:
1. It assumes someone is in poverty unless they can afford such luxuries as television and gaming consoles, which is beyond ridiculous.
2. It will forever be a constantly moving target. It is literally impossible to move everyone above this magical poverty line because higher wages leads to higher cost of living as the cost is passed to the consumer. This is very basic math.
1. It assumes someone is in poverty unless they can afford such luxuries as television and gaming consoles, which is beyond ridiculous.
2. It will forever be a constantly moving target. It is literally impossible to move everyone above this magical poverty line because higher wages leads to higher cost of living as the cost is passed to the consumer. This is very basic math.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 2:41 pm to LeonPhelps
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How the government has the constitutional right to tell an employer the minimum he must pay an employee is beyond me. All minimum wage does is a) raise prices to the consumer (further increasing that poverty line they point to) and b) put a lot of people not worth the minimum wage out of work. A business can pay two people for $14.50 now, plus the FICA and Medicare match plus state and federal unemployment tax plus any benefits, or pay 1 person for $10.10 to the do the same job - a fairly menial job that does not merit a single transferable skill. As an employer, I would just put onus on fewer workers to keep my overall costs down rather than retain everyone and pay them 50% more.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 3:14 pm to pistolpete23
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The annual pay for a full-time minimum wage worker currently sits at $14,500, which is below the poverty line for a household of more than one person.
Bolded part is key. Make good life decisions people.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 4:44 pm to pistolpete23
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The annual pay for a full-time minimum wage worker currently sits at $14,500, which is below the poverty line for a household of more than one person.
There's no excuse for being a full-time minimum wage earner.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 4:48 pm to tigersaint26
When I was 15 years old I worked 3 different part time jobs duiring the summer and school year to save up enough money to buy my first car... making $5.15 an hour minimum wage
If minimum wage were $10.10 or $15 I would have never landed those jobs to be able to buy a car
This would hurt teenagers looking for a part time job to save money for a car, college, or even to have pocket money.
If minimum wage were $10.10 or $15 I would have never landed those jobs to be able to buy a car
This would hurt teenagers looking for a part time job to save money for a car, college, or even to have pocket money.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 5:41 pm to goldennugget
I'm a bit torn about the issue of minimum wage. On the one hand, I can see how it messes with free market principals. But, on the other hand I can see how if a person has to work 40-70 hours a week and still not have enough to live that would be an issue as well. I'm at the point where I consider the minimum wage a necessary evil where I would like the level to be set high enough to be superior to living off of welfare. As it is right now, if I could just sit on my arse all day and make nearly the same amount as working, why work?
And yeah, I know teenagers are going to lose some jobs, but at this point most people who are working minimum wage jobs aren't teenagers but are trying to support families.
And yeah, I know teenagers are going to lose some jobs, but at this point most people who are working minimum wage jobs aren't teenagers but are trying to support families.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 5:57 pm to pistolpete23
Good. Price controls suck.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 5:58 pm to Tyrusrex
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but at this point most people who are working minimum wage jobs aren't teenagers but are trying to support families.
Source?
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:00 pm to Tyrusrex
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but at this point most people who are working minimum wage jobs aren't teenagers but are trying to support families.
someone made some really dumb choices
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:02 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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someone made some really dumb choices
There are plenty of entry-level jobs that will pay more than minimum wage. Hell, one will get a raise (albiet a small one) even at a fast-food restaurant after three months of good work. You have to be fricking up big-time to be stuck at 7.25 an hour.
Wait tables, FFS. You can make anywhere from 10-50 bucks an hour, depending on the restaurant.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:06 pm to Tyrusrex
quote:If so they are fricking brain damaged.
but at this point most people who are working minimum wage jobs aren't teenagers but are trying to support families.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:18 pm to pistolpete23
Only thing that needs to be said about this until it is brutalized in peoples' heads is "MINIMUM wage. NOT minimum LIVING wage."
The idea that every job in the country SHOULD pay an amount equal to the minimum amount of money an individual needs to self sustain independently is true communism.
There will always be people that are unemployable. Therefore, there will ALWAYS be people unemployed.
We should pass a bill that anyone that is deemed mentally and physically fit enough to work that has been unemployed for X period of time should be deported to their communist country of choice!
THERE IS NO PERFECT system.
The idea that every job in the country SHOULD pay an amount equal to the minimum amount of money an individual needs to self sustain independently is true communism.
There will always be people that are unemployable. Therefore, there will ALWAYS be people unemployed.
We should pass a bill that anyone that is deemed mentally and physically fit enough to work that has been unemployed for X period of time should be deported to their communist country of choice!
THERE IS NO PERFECT system.
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:06 pm to pistolpete23
This was nothing more than a political play.
Sort of like an ObamaCare repeal vote by the GOP.
I hate this shite.
Sort of like an ObamaCare repeal vote by the GOP.
I hate this shite.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:18 am to pistolpete23
no mayday celebration for the arse hat marxist
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:11 am to goldennugget
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Harry Reid (D-NV), tweeted, "Republicans just turned their backs on millions of hardworking Americans who deserve a fair shot. This debate is not over."
Hmm. There area bout 1.4 million Americans who earn minimum wage. Reid needs to work on the definition of "millions".
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:12 am to ShortyRob
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. Reid needs to work on the definition of "millions".
And "deserve" and "fair shot"
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:20 am to Tyrusrex
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but at this point most people who are working minimum wage jobs aren't teenagers but are trying to support families
Have anything to back up that unsubstantiated claim? Because what I've read shows the majority of minimum wage earners are young people working part time. If you're supporting a family on minimum wage you're pretty much living out of a dumpster.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:29 am to Tyrusrex
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I would like the level to be set high enough to be superior to living off of welfare. As it is right now, if I could just sit on my arse all day and make nearly the same amount as working, why work?
You are attempting to fix the wrong problem.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:29 am to Tyrusrex
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still not have enough to live that would be an issue as well
Welfare should be a problem for society to address, not the employer. Tax the employer more across the board if we think welfare benefits are not adequate, but don't increase his costs at the employment side. We will just have more unemployment as a result. If someone wants to work for just a few dollars then we should let them.
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