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re: Milwaukee County Judge Hannah Dugan has been found guilty of felony obstruction

Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:46 pm to
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I don’t think she owed a duty to ICE for an administrative warrant. It’s her court. She can process someone as quickly or take as long as she wants.


Well..if you were her attorney she could sue you for malpractice for that advice.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:47 pm to
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I don’t think she owed a duty to ICE
This was not a tort case.
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
7275 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:49 pm to
My faith in humanity needle budged off zero a little - just a little. I’m surprised they didn’t get a ringer or 2 on the jury who ignored the law.

FAFO
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19318 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:53 pm to
It’s not over til the sentencing. Let’s see if they actually make her pay.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31757 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:54 pm to
So once she told ICE agents to go to see the Chief Judge, what were her options? Did she have to wait for those ICE agents to return outside of her court room? Was she required to make sure they left out the exact door from which they entered? That’s what I’ve been struggling with.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466275 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:55 pm to
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So once she told ICE agents to go to see the Chief Judge, what were her options? Did she have to wait for those ICE agents to return outside of her court room?

No.

She could have just done court normally.

The question is why she went out of her way to NOT run her court normally, and the answer to that question is why she's a felon.

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84781 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:00 pm to
Guy that defends a piss dossier can't figure out what the frick the judge did wrong.
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
7275 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:01 pm to
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It’s not over til the sentencing. Let’s see if they actually make her pay.


Federal judges used to be held within the constraints of sentencing guidelines. Ive had conversations with some where they bitched about having to sentence 50 gram of crack dudes with more time than bank robbers - rightfully so. . I’ve been out of the game for 10 years - LEA, not a lawyer - maybe someone will expound.
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31757 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:16 pm to
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She could have just done court normally.


Ok she could do that. But how far out of range of that before it becomes a felony?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466275 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:17 pm to
I mean we don't have to go with a "grey area" example b/c her behavior was so flagrant and outside the bounds of normalcy.

Like, I like to do the thing where you use the extreme example to remove a binary argument, and her actions are at one of those poles in this scenario.

As I said earlier, ignoring the criminal context, that's a blatant ethical violation and violation of the judicial canon.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57076 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:22 pm to
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So once she told ICE agents to go to see the Chief Judge, what were her options? Did she have to wait for those ICE agents to return outside of her court room? Was she required to make sure they left out the exact door from which they entered? That’s what I’ve been struggling with.


Her option was to not take the criminal illegal out the side door in an attempt to avoid ICE.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57076 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:23 pm to
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Ok she could do that. But how far out of range of that before it becomes a felony?


The obstruction part.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57076 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:24 pm to
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As I said earlier, ignoring the criminal context, that's a blatant ethical violation and violation of the judicial canon.


Yep. Wisconsin state bar is a strange one. You think they have a disciplinary hearing?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466275 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:25 pm to
They have to at this point
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31757 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:32 pm to
Illuminating. 10/10
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
12084 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:42 pm to
Hell yeah!!
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17512 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:44 pm to
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Let’s see if they actually make her pay.


At the very least she won't be able to practice law in Wisconsin. ...but she won't do time. Although she should.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1139 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:45 pm to
Finally, one of these corrupt bastards will be locked up.

Its a start, anyway.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57076 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:46 pm to
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They have to at this point

Agreed. But Wisconsin is weird. Don’t even have to pass a bar exam if you go to a Wisconsin law school.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57076 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:47 pm to
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Illuminating. 10/10


She clearly obstructed. What’s your beef?
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