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re: Michelle Obama's stupid lunch regulations getting tossed by TRUMP next week!

Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:52 am to
Posted by Quidam65
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Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:52 am to
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Poor innocent fat kids being fat shamed and shunned. We should protest in their honor.


Can I do one of those "virtual" protests? Like only "virtually" pigging out on junk food to show my solidarity? Then when I want to stop I can leave?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:54 am to
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They were absolutely awful regulations that hamstrung food directors trying to meet budgets while also meeting all the ridiculous stipulations.



That's only what morons believes

The faact of the matter is, no school was required to follow the guidelines, at all. The ONLY thing the regulations said was "follow these regulations, OR you don't get the extra federal money attached"

Now, the truly hilarious part of that is that liberals loved it, but now that Trump has said "follow federal regulations or don't get the attached money" they are suing. Because they are truly stupid.

But don't be as stupid as them by claiming this lunch program forced any school to do anything, it did not, obviously most schools wanted the extra federal money though.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:57 am to
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Public schools(and some private ones) get USDA funding for school lunches. They have to follow USDA regulations to obtain that funding.


So, we should put tighter restrictions on things like fatty foods and Red Bulls on the EBT/food stamp programs?

Is that your position?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:01 am to
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So, we should put tighter restrictions on things like fatty foods and Red Bulls on the EBT/food stamp programs?



Works for me.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110957 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:02 am to
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I love this thread where we're being educated on how healthy fried foods can really be.



This place never ceases to amaze.



I mean, is that really something one must do to simply think we shouldn't have something like a federal government edict declaring that no school anywhere should ever serve fried food at any time ever again?
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:04 am to
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So, we should put tighter restrictions on things like fatty foods and Red Bulls on the EBT/food stamp programs?



Works for me.


Appreciate your honesty. I agree. If you want a Red Bull go get a job.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:04 am to
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Like Obamacare, it had good intentions but was poorly executed.



You pretty much can describe any "social experiment" that is implemented by the Federal Government with "poorly executed" and I would not be so certain that the "intentions" were necessarily good...

However, in the case of the Obama's they actually thought they could simply decree something into happening... I do not know if that was primarily through arrogance or simple stupidity on their part but look at pretty much all of their social programs and you find the same or at a minimum similar issues...

You cannot regulate healthy choices...
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:04 am to
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I mean, is that really something one must do to simply think we shouldn't have something like a federal government edict declaring that no school anywhere should ever serve fried food at any time ever again?


That was never ever mentioned in the regulations, nor did M Obama even suggest it. Educate yourselves.

Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19568 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:07 am to
Vast majority won't because they tow old data and thinking then cite commercially fried chicken to support their arguments. Deep frying pressure cookers don't mean "properly" in the context of my statement, proper means using the right oil at the right temperature. A properly deep fried turkey is invariably less greasy than an oven roasted one. Same goes for chicken and vegetables. Get out of your "Food Pyramid" thinking, you'll be healthier.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 10:10 am
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
24299 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:22 am to
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School lunches aren't the reason or even a contributing reason to why kids are fat. Our school lunches were the shite, but we had an hour of recess and we played sports year round, and we were always active outside playing something with other kids.

Kids are fat because they have parents that give them notes that the can't participate in physical activity in school.

Kids are fat because sports are bad now. They are too competitive and everyone can't get a trophy.

Kids are fat because people would rather get their kids McDonalds rather than sit down as a family to a home cooked meal.

Kids are fat because after they eat McDonalds, or maybe even get a home cooked meal, they don't go out to play or to practice. They go to the television or to their phone, or their tablet, or their XBOX and slug until they go to sleep.

Kids are fat because parents are fat and lazy, and too concerned with dumb shite to realize they are creating a lazy, fat kid just like they are inside.
All of this is true, but I don't think you are getting the overall point. Event though these things are true, there is no need for the school system to pile on with the high carb lunches that they served. That still contributes so we should at least remove that factor
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
24299 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:26 am to
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Properly done it's no worse than baking, healthier in some cases. I know you probably couldn't grasp the science here but there are websites that you can Google that will explain it to you with small words and pictures.

No it isn't. Carbohydrates are the biggest contributor to obesity and other health issues like cancer and deep fried foods are loaded with carbs. Grilled and baked proteins don't have carbs and veggies don't have high amounts of empty carbs that your body turns into glucose.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24299 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:33 am to
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As a school teacher, I want to point out this fact to the liberals on this board: kids didn't eat the healthy parts of the lunch. The amount of food thrown in the trash is maddening. They load up on the extras - ice cream and chips. They still don't eat healthy, so let's not pretend this is going to lead to obesity.
So why don't schools just not stock ice cream, chips and sodas? If you take away those bad options they can't consume them unless they bring them themselves. If parents want them to have them let the parents supply them.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167453 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:35 am to
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If you're more happy about trashing a man than doing what's best for the country, then I want no part of the modern Republican Party.

This is the same logic used to vote against Hilary --- "I don't care if the other option is the worst for me and others, BUt as long as I ruin someone else or make sure they fail, I'm happy."

It's psychopathic and pathetic. It what teenage girls do
When they get made

are you for realz?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:38 am to
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So why don't schools just not stock ice cream, chips and sodas? If you take away those bad options they can't consume them unless they bring them themselves. If parents want them to have them let the parents supply them.


I mean, I graduated high school in the early 90's and my school recognized how bad some of that stuff was. None of it was sold at lunchtime, and the vending machines were locked up except for during morning break and after school.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167453 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:42 am to
Why do liberal democrats have such a nanny-state, of mind?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:45 am to
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Why do liberal democrats have such a nanny-state, of mind?


To be fair, if the government is subsidizing your lunch you need to be prepared for the government to make regulations about what you may eat.

Of course the hypocrisy is that if one to dare suggest that cookies and chips and sodas shouldn't be available for purchase with SNAP, those same liberals would explode in righteous indignation, because they are in fact mentally retarded.

Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:46 am to
take that michelle!
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:52 am to
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Why do liberal democrats have such a nanny-state, of mind?



Oh I HATED it when I was in school. I wanted a damn Dr. Pepper after lunch.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24299 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:54 am to
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To be fair, if the government is subsidizing your lunch you need to be prepared for the government to make regulations about what you may eat.

Of course the hypocrisy is that if one to dare suggest that cookies and chips and sodas shouldn't be available for purchase with SNAP, those same liberals would explode in righteous indignation, because they are in fact mentally retarded.

If government is supplying it, the government can regulate it. Lobbyist influence the SNAP program as well. I'm sure the lobbyist want to protect their client's interests as well which are to make sure their products, no matter how bad they are for the SNAP users, can be purchased as well. They probably spin it that the government is discriminating against them if they disallow their products to be purchased with SNAP funds.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:59 am to
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They probably spin it that the government is discriminating against them if they disallow their products to be purchased with SNAP funds.


That is, of course, the exact line they use.

I myself am more concerned with the a-hole who gets food stamps to buy his kids milk so he can spend his cash on beer than I am some guy buying some cookies but the point remains. either the government CAN dictate what you can eat when they are supplying the food, or they can't?

Of course we all realize that liberals are fricking retarded hypocrites I mean how stupid do you have to be to be okay with Obama threatening to take away school funds if schools don't allow transgenders to use the restroom of their choice, but go into a screaming fit about state's rights when Trump threatens police funding of states which have sanctuary policies? Pretty goddamned stupid, that's for sure.

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