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re: #MeToo Backlash: Male Bosses Avoid 1-on-1 Meetings w/ Women. No Meetings=No Promotions

Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98858 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:44 pm to
Well, well...if it isn't the consequences of my own actions?
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18081 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:04 pm to
My first job out of college was a position embedded in a corporate HR office. There were three men in an office of 30.

There was a girl in the office that was drop dead gorgeous. The company I worked for had your typical executives and some $10/hour types that were a little rough around the edges.

We hired this guy that had just graduated from Vandy with an MBA. The receptionist openly said what she would like to do to him. Openly flirted with him. Unbuttoned her blouse in meetings with him. One day at lunch she was eating something with a spoon and said that he could "use the spoon to eat her pussy." It got to the point where she was making us uncomfortable, but no one said anything. He was hitting it every night - he was cool, and we didn't want to cause any issue.

One day one of the janitors came in - he wasn't all there - and he told her she was pretty and gave her a flower he had picked from outside. She raised enough hell to have him fired.

She and the Vanderbilt MBA were fired a week later. Someone got pissed that she got the janitor fired and went to the VP and told them what she was doing.

Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
3230 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:21 pm to
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Several of the clinics and hospitals that I trained with after the #MeToo stuff start implemented policies that males had to have a chaperone when performing a physical exam on a female patient.


Men need to start demanding the same when they are the subject of an exam by a female. And scream bloody murder til it happens.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19309 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:40 pm to
This is where I like the glass panels in our office doors. That way I can meet 1-on-1 with females but people can see inside to make sure nothing happens or happened if I get accused.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19258 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 6:05 pm to
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You could touch someone on the shoulder, or say something completely innocently and mean nothing deviant, and all it takes is one time for the female to take it the complete opposite of its intention


It’s the easiest way in the world to get fired.

And it’s not what happened, but how the other party perceived it.

You also have to worry about everyone else in the room, and how they choose to remember it.

A third party can accuse you of misconduct.

I worked with a guy who wanted to move up, and he figured the easiest way to do that, was to get his boss fired.

He tried to pressure his subordinates into making false accusations.
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71135 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 6:35 pm to
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She has no clue about the word trust. Why should guys who worked to get where they are risk it all by being accused, not convicted but just accused? The idiot feminists supported psychos like mattress chick and guys took note. Any woman can make an accusation and even if the guy can show video or eyewitness, he can lose his career.


This.

If we had innocent until proven guilty it wouldn't be an issue. Only way to get burned would be if you really were a creep (Weinstein, C.K., Cosby, etc.)
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19258 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 7:16 pm to
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Maybe it's time to quit coddling women to the point they have no idea there are consequences to their actions.



Women are always testing men. That’s their nature.

It’s our job to stand up for ourselves.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 1:37 am to
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Yall should have rolled them. There need to be major severe consequences for that kind of shite for it to go away




True, but business is about making money and while the public burning of a couple of witches would have scared off other witches it wouldn't have helped our image or improved our sales.

Them being unemployed, without benefits, for at least several months was consequences and it made the company get smarter in defending itself from stupidity...
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38914 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 2:14 am to
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I would never have a meeting with a female subordinate without a witness present.



Okay, but a male subordinate can falsely accuse you as well. This would actually be a lot worse.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 3:13 am to


never gets old
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 3:31 am to
Pretty much. In general, guys should avoid any sort of socializing with, friendship with, or mentoring of women where they work or go to school. The risk to your career and reputation from false accusations is too high.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38788 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 3:52 am to
Pence is right
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42616 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 5:57 am to
Men ought to start a movement of #notmehoneypot
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27992 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 6:00 am to
It's not really even backlash. It's just natural cause and effect. As predictable and sure, as gravity.
Posted by Man4others
Member since Aug 2017
2056 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 6:16 am to
My HR department requested me to have a meeting with a a lady I manage regarding her outfits. I told HR I would need them in the office with me. No way I was having that conversation without them in my office.

Another male coworker told me he talks on the phone with a former employee of ours. He is in his 40s married with kids and she is single and 26 y/o. Why they were talking is a total mystery. I would never do that nor tell anyone. Asking for trouble Imo
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