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re: MERCATOR: Chosen Olde World Map-Maker of the 16th Century (Includes 'The Map')
Posted on 5/2/22 at 12:26 pm to dstone12
Posted on 5/2/22 at 12:26 pm to dstone12
I spent an evening at a geological society meeting just listening to guys from the coast talking about the Bays and what they didn't know.
Years later, people still don't know what happened to the first colony in North Carolina. To me it didn't make sense to settle so far from the ocean. Well, duh, when they settled there, there was a Pass in the outer banks close to opposite the colony, but that either wasn't remembered or not thought to be important enough to mention. The outer barrier islands tend to be breached; it's only the Corps of Engineers that keep the breaches filled back.
I find that the Roman coastal cities, easily accessible for sea transport are inland. From Rome to Chester England (the latter the Roman city Diva), their rivers filled in the post glacial scoured river channels. The more farming, the more land disturbance, the more sediments to fill and choke those channels.
The west coast of the US has precious few harbors and lots of rocky shore lines, the better to stove in your wooden ship and thus better avoided. (The Columbia mouth being hidden in fog much of the year with an area off shore where sediment drops and accumulates as the mighty Columbia is slowed rapidly.
Years later, people still don't know what happened to the first colony in North Carolina. To me it didn't make sense to settle so far from the ocean. Well, duh, when they settled there, there was a Pass in the outer banks close to opposite the colony, but that either wasn't remembered or not thought to be important enough to mention. The outer barrier islands tend to be breached; it's only the Corps of Engineers that keep the breaches filled back.
I find that the Roman coastal cities, easily accessible for sea transport are inland. From Rome to Chester England (the latter the Roman city Diva), their rivers filled in the post glacial scoured river channels. The more farming, the more land disturbance, the more sediments to fill and choke those channels.
The west coast of the US has precious few harbors and lots of rocky shore lines, the better to stove in your wooden ship and thus better avoided. (The Columbia mouth being hidden in fog much of the year with an area off shore where sediment drops and accumulates as the mighty Columbia is slowed rapidly.
Posted on 5/2/22 at 12:45 pm to Liberator
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We set off to explore his map in order to illustrate his biggest blunders
Is it me or is this some stupid Monday morning quarterbacking type of comment?
I'm no expert or major aficionado (though I find seeing the progression of maps over time fascinating), but these look pretty reasonable for being done back in the 1500s, with what is available.
Posted on 5/2/22 at 12:56 pm to Liberator
I think I need to start a thread on LIDAR. That technology will absolutely revolutionize historical/archaeological thoughts. Fascinating the windows to the past it is opening in Mexico/Central America and the Olmecs, Mayans.
Posted on 5/2/22 at 1:04 pm to KAGTASTIC
I have a high resolution digital copy of the complete Baron DeCrenay map of Colonial Louisiana of 1733.
There were only two actual copies and one was lost. The one known copy is in the Centre Historique des Archives Nationales en Paris, the French Archives.
I find the Mercator maps amazing, especially the guidepoints.
My map has one of these guidepoints in the Gulf that is probably pretty accurate.
By 1733 the French had a pretty good mapping of the indian tribes through Alabama through present day Louisiana, their roads and trails, Natchez Trace, tribal centers, rivers.
What is weak are the swampy areas of southwest Louisiana and the same back beyond Pensacola/Appalachicola, which was Spanish; and east of the coosa River which was English at the time. Of course, no one had explored too far up the Red river system. They did know that the Mississippi went into the great Lakes region where other French exploration was ongoing (Caddilac used to live about 6 blocks from me until he went to explore and founded Detroit).
There were only two actual copies and one was lost. The one known copy is in the Centre Historique des Archives Nationales en Paris, the French Archives.
I find the Mercator maps amazing, especially the guidepoints.
My map has one of these guidepoints in the Gulf that is probably pretty accurate.
By 1733 the French had a pretty good mapping of the indian tribes through Alabama through present day Louisiana, their roads and trails, Natchez Trace, tribal centers, rivers.
What is weak are the swampy areas of southwest Louisiana and the same back beyond Pensacola/Appalachicola, which was Spanish; and east of the coosa River which was English at the time. Of course, no one had explored too far up the Red river system. They did know that the Mississippi went into the great Lakes region where other French exploration was ongoing (Caddilac used to live about 6 blocks from me until he went to explore and founded Detroit).
Posted on 5/2/22 at 2:44 pm to real turf fan
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The outer barrier islands tend to be breached; it's only the Corps of Engineers that keep the breaches filled back.
I did a project at Coquina Beach in college.
Hurricanes do damage to the OBx obviously.
But Nor'easters are the killer out there on those east north east facing shorelines.
COE keeps those dunes at 15+.
A nor’easter can scour three feet off the littoral zone pretty quick like.
This post was edited on 5/2/22 at 2:48 pm
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