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Mentally unstable people, felons, and the 2nd Amendment
Posted on 6/16/19 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 6/16/19 at 7:51 pm
Criminals and mentally unstable people existed when the 2nd was written. Why weren’t they exempted from the right by the Framers?
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 7:53 pm to weagle99
Cause we needed those frickers to lead saber charges across open fields
Posted on 6/16/19 at 7:56 pm to weagle99
Alcohol and transportation existed, but no mention of roadblock exceptions to the 4th amendment either 
Folks walked around with weapons everywhere, no terry frisk written in either. The list goes on and on and on...
Folks walked around with weapons everywhere, no terry frisk written in either. The list goes on and on and on...
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:00 pm to weagle99
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Criminals and mentally unstable people existed when the 2nd was written. Why weren’t they exempted from the right by the Framers?
It wasn't until 1968 that felons were barred from owning firearms. The Gun Control Act was a massive gun control legislation that many people don't recognize its reach.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:05 pm to weagle99
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Why weren’t they exempted from the right by the Framers?
They were intelligent, well educated people that understood that there will always be bad people in the world and the populace should have the best means to defend themselves. Gun-control advocates are ignorant, dishonest, and morally bankrupt fools.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:10 pm to weagle99
quote:Because controlling access to firearms was considered a matter for the States to handle, if they wished. The 2nd Amendment was written to keep the central government completely out of the matter.
Criminals and mentally unstable people existed when the 2nd was written. Why weren’t they exempted from the right by the Framers?
That did not change until expansion of the misguided incorporation doctrine under the 14th Amendment
Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:36 am to weagle99
Like Judge Posner accurately remarked District of Columbia v. Heller was a snowjob as far as originalism was concerned, I respect the hell out of the late Justice Scalia (RIP) but the Heller majority clearly tried to have it both ways while also not providing the lower courts any test or standard by which to scrutinize gun regulations, is what it is.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:41 am to AggieHank86
Aggie, I sincerely hope you’re referring to the selective incorporation the Court pulled the years following the 14th Amendment bc if you aren’t...THE FREAKING FRAMER OF THE AMENDMENT EXPLICITLY STATED THE DUE PROCESS CLAUSE WAS TO INCORPORATE THE FIRST 8 AMENDMENTS TO THE STATES
Posted on 6/17/19 at 6:29 am to ThePTExperience1969
quote:Bingham did say that. SCOTUS disagreed, repeatedly over a period of some 50 years.
THE FREAKING FRAMER OF THE AMENDMENT EXPLICITLY STATED THE DUE PROCESS CLAUSE WAS TO INCORPORATE THE FIRST 8 AMENDMENTS TO THE STATES
Posted on 6/17/19 at 6:34 am to weagle99
We didn't have assault knives back then.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:01 am to weagle99
Back then criminals were hung and crazies were locked up.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:38 am to weagle99
Because who are you going to give the authority to determine who is and who isn't mentally unstable? And who are you going to trust to not abuse that power? Who is not going to start expanding the definition of unstable until it includes most people?
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