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re: MEMO: HIC Releases the Memo. Link to memo inside
Posted on 2/3/18 at 12:21 pm to SmackoverHawg
Posted on 2/3/18 at 12:21 pm to SmackoverHawg
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PLEASE explain how this is not worse than Watergate.
Then Sessions recuses himself and leaves Trump wide open to the people that did this shite.
Someone needs to be looking into Sessions.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 12:35 pm to Summer of George
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So Nunes and the republicans spend a year gather info and doing due diligence and produce a four page memo and the dems will turn around and produce a ten page rebuttal in a few days? How is that? Have they been appointing HIC dems to fisa info review and gathering support as well for a year?
Also remember that DC's population is something like 90% Democrats.
I never could understand the veracity of the motives for the people who have been trying to take down Trump since before the election. I now understand that there were plenty of people who had committed crimes that would instantly go away when Hillary won, and yet another set of people that their livelihoods depended on a democratic president. These people needed Hilary in a way that I just hadn't understood before.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 1:22 pm to Perfect Circle
Dear Perfect Circle,
Like you, I am looking at this through my own understanding of what has happened in the past several months. I am not being willfully ignorant; far from it.
For example, please enlighten us on your understanding that the Executive Branch 'weaponized the IC' to derail a presidential candidate.
Which administration are you talking about?
And, while we're at it, the apparent complaint of this memo is that a FISA court was misled into issuing an extension of a warrant for surveillance against ONE individual.
How would that possibly derail a presidential candidate?
And, to the larger point, the Mueller investigation and many investigations in Congress are trying to get to the bottom of how Russia (yes, birthplace of Stalin) interfered in our last presidential election. The intelligence community has been on record about this threat for months, because they recognize the threat it is to our country.
That's what you should be worried about, sir.
Respectfully.
Like you, I am looking at this through my own understanding of what has happened in the past several months. I am not being willfully ignorant; far from it.
For example, please enlighten us on your understanding that the Executive Branch 'weaponized the IC' to derail a presidential candidate.
Which administration are you talking about?
And, while we're at it, the apparent complaint of this memo is that a FISA court was misled into issuing an extension of a warrant for surveillance against ONE individual.
How would that possibly derail a presidential candidate?
And, to the larger point, the Mueller investigation and many investigations in Congress are trying to get to the bottom of how Russia (yes, birthplace of Stalin) interfered in our last presidential election. The intelligence community has been on record about this threat for months, because they recognize the threat it is to our country.
That's what you should be worried about, sir.
Respectfully.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 2:16 pm to NamesEthan
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And, while we're at it, the apparent complaint of this memo is that a FISA court was misled into issuing an extension of a warrant for surveillance against ONE individual.
You keep believing that crap.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 3:06 pm to browl
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I post on the Rant, mostly the Off-topic board and it's common knowledge that I supported President Obama
Cool story bro. So when are you moving to Europe?
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I post on the Rant, mostly the Off-topic board and it's common knowledge that I supported President Obama (I voted twice for him, and I also voted for President Trump as I despise Hillary Clinton)
Very intellectually dishonest of you.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 3:39 pm to NamesEthan
Ethan, you’re really that dumb?
Posted on 2/3/18 at 3:49 pm to RazorBroncs
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It couldn't have been Nunes, because he hasn't read it.
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And now we add another to the long list of uneducated posters not to take seriously. At least try to know what you're talking about when you're spewing bull shite.
Nunes has confirmed that he sent Gowdy to view the documents, and he hasn't seen them himself.
You want to reconsider your post? Seems like the shoe is on the other foot. Meaning -- Yours.
This post was edited on 2/3/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:37 pm to Carville
I may be dumb, but I rely on facts.
So, if you've got facts to refute me, let''s see them.
If you'd rather just say something insulting, have at it.
So, if you've got facts to refute me, let''s see them.
If you'd rather just say something insulting, have at it.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:43 pm to Jjdoc
In case you didn't see it, look up Paul Ryan's comments at the GOP gathering in West Virginia. He said the memo does not impugn the FBI, The DOJ or the Mueller investigation. I think we can assume that the Republican House Speaker possesses all the facts. Is he wrong in thinking the Nunes memo is just .... meh ???
Posted on 2/3/18 at 5:40 pm to texridder
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Nunes has confirmed that he sent Gowdy to view the documents, and he hasn't seen them himself.
You want to reconsider your post? Seems like the shoe is on the other foot. Meaning -- Yours.
As the chairman of the HIC, member of the HPSCI, and one of the "Gang of Eight," Nunes has oversight above all 3 branches of government, unlimited subpoena powers, and yes, the right to demand any and all documents he'd like from all levels of government. The FBI and DOJ stalled for months on turning over all of the documentation he requested of them, until he set a deadline of January 3rd at the threat of bringing obstruction charges (which is another thing he can do) down on the stalling parties.
It is very well known that Nunes received the thousands and thousands of documents on January 3rd to view for himself. You should do some research, you'll find that it was pretty widely reported and Nunes even speaks about it in several interviews and public quotes.
I don't know where you people are getting this "Nunes hasn't even seen the documents he wrote the memo about hurrrr durrrrr!!" talking point from other than parroting other incorrect idiots, because the news (including the deflecting MSM) isn't even saying it and they'd be the first to do so. I think people took the letters sent to Nunes warning that the memo was dangerous without context due to the other members of the House of Reps not being able to view the source docs and somehow incorrectly twisted that into "Nunes can't even view the classified documents!"
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:54 pm to RazorBroncs
someone give me cliff notes as to whats happening im not reading 20+ pages.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:42 pm to Double Oh
After a full two days of spinning, the number of replies this supposed massive news got is as pathetic as the meme-o itself.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:46 pm to RazorBroncs
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It is very well known that Nunes received the thousands and thousands of documents on January 3rd to view for himself. You should do some research, you'll find that it was pretty widely reported and Nunes even speaks about it in several interviews and public quotes.
Nunes might have reviewed hundreds of documents, but he did not view the most important document-the FISA application itself.
Nunes sent Gowdy to view the FISA application. Gowdy took notes and then briefed the Republican members of the committee on what he saw.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:38 pm to texridder
Can someone give me a quick down and dirty of what all has happen regarding this memo since just before its release?
I'm deployed and the little news I can watch, AFN is only showing commentary.
I'm deployed and the little news I can watch, AFN is only showing commentary.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:20 am to texridder
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he did not view the most important document-the FISA application itself.
The application for the FISA warrant that McCabe admitted wouldnt have happened without the dossier? That one?
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:09 am to texridder
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Nunes might have reviewed hundreds of documents, but he did not view the most important document-the FISA application itself.
Nunes sent Gowdy to view the FISA application. Gowdy took notes and then briefed the Republican members of the committee on what he saw.
And? People keep calling it the nunes memo.
It is the work product of the HIC of which Gowdy is a member
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:11 am to NamesEthan
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I may be dumb, but I rely on facts.
Yet, here you are spewing from the mouth and not one fact was said. You, sir, are quite the idiot.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:43 am to Double Oh
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someone give me cliff notes as to whats happening im not reading 20+ pages.
Absolutely nothing is happening. This was all a bunch of hoopla over literally nothing
Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:52 pm to Grim
The problem here is that if The President moves on any of these snakes, he gets charged with Obstruction of Justice. He's in a bind, but shining the light will eventually freeze things in place. It's a stalemate right now. New pieces will come on the board soon.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:59 pm to Jjdoc
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This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 5:38 am
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