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re: Meadows: 90-95% of spying justification was the dossier & fake news stories

Posted on 4/14/19 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 2:04 pm to
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Saw on twitter....Meadows states that there were up to 17 FISAs...not just 4 in question!!!!!!! 17!!!!!


17???

Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 3:23 pm to
I'd bet a chunk that most if not every camp had these FISA Trojans in it. Nobody wants to blow the whistle on the system because everyone has done this same shite and doesn't want the system exposed.
Posted by GeauxJoeGeaux
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 3:33 pm to
K...keep me posted.
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 3:36 pm to
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keep me posted.

Will do. This should deeply concern every American
Posted by GeauxJoeGeaux
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 3:47 pm to
I agree, just like Barr’s letter confirmed Russian interference, it will happen again.
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 3:49 pm to
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just like Barr’s letter confirmed Russian interference, it will happen again.

Yep. Obama should have done more in 2016 to stop Russia from interfering

Fortunately, no Americans assisted in their efforts. We can all be grateful for that
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 5:46 pm to
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Clearly WAY more substance than that but you have nailed where the goalposts will move to. That 5-10% was important enough to spy!



i'm saying that if we are going to perpetuate crap like this then there is also a percentage where it would have been credible
Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 6:38 pm to
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just like Barr’s letter confirmed Russian interference


*yawn*
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 6:42 pm to
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I'd bet a chunk that most if not every camp had these FISA Trojans in it. Nobody wants to blow the whistle on the system because everyone has done this same shite and doesn't want the system exposed.


If that turns out to be true then that's even more reason for it all to be exposed.
Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 6:54 pm to
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If that turns out to be true then that's even more reason for it all to be exposed.




I think it should be, but it's the main reason it won't be. Trump is going to play the game, IMO
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 6:57 pm to
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Looks like we found out what the articulable facts, mosaic of fasts, and corpus of intelligence are.


Yep. The same false story fed through different sources doesn't make it a mosaic.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 7:01 pm to
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i'm saying that if we are going to perpetuate crap like this then there is also a percentage where it would have been credible

See my thread on why allowing spying on political opponents is a fricking horrible idea in basically 100% of the cases
Posted by Ten Bears
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 7:09 pm to
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I agree, just like Barr’s letter confirmed Russian interference, it will happen again.


Can you please explain in simple words what the Russians, specifically, Did to influence the election? At first I thought it was the $50k in Facebook ads, but now you’re suggesting a more sinister plot may have occurred, like sending an email to John Podesta asking for his password?

Is that it?
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 7:24 pm to
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What % is required before it's worth a look?


100%. If it’s in the fisa app, the woods rules require it be 100% vetted.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 7:24 pm to
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agree, just like Barr’s letter confirmed Russian interference, it will happen again.


Why didn’t Obama stop that?
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 7:41 pm to
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i'm saying that if we are going to perpetuate crap like this then there is also a percentage where it would have been credible


A SECRET COURT which allows spying on American citizens needs to be 100% substance & without a doubt on the evidence!


OH....and exculpatory evidence should mean it's enough to put the breaks on the whole legal spying, it certainly shouldn't be WITHHELD!!!
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 8:02 pm to
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100%. If it’s in the fisa app, the woods rules require it be 100% vetted.

This is the only answer

Comey in October 2016: Everything in the FISA warrant is factual and verified

Comey in January 2017: Dossier is salacious and unverified

The bulk of the FISA warrants was the debunked dossier. That's called illegal spying
Posted by GeauxJoeGeaux
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:38 am to
Why do you need me to explain it? Barr very succinctly summed up Russian interfering on a two prong effort in his letter.
Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:43 am to
*yawn*
Posted by TurkeyBaconLeg
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:46 am to
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