re: Man dead after refusing to show police ID

The good thing about the chief is he doesn't have to wait for any ongoing investigation, he has already made up his mind. He saw nothing wrong and it was a good kill. I bet the fine people of Moore are proud of those cops.

He could have become combative once the police started grabbing him then threw him to the ground? For not showing them his ID?

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Yep, just one more example of cops acting like thugs.

We won't hear a peep from the "good cops" who should be demanding these individuals be held accountable for their actions. That is probably because good cops don't exist.

Once again though, nothing will come of this. These thugs will get docked a little bit of pay, suspended for a short amount of time, and then go about their merry little lives. The rest of us would be locked away for doing something like that.

We just get held to a higher standard than the uneducated, adrenaline junkies who happen to be backed by the government and can harass and assault citizens at whim.

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All true. Yet cop worship, like military worship, throughout the country will go unabated.

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All true. Yet cop worship, like military worship, throughout the country will go unabated.

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Stupid. If you want to see an example of cop worship read this thread. There is me and Alahunter supporting the position that maybe you should wait till you know all the facts to judge e a cops actions.

And everyone else blaming every other blight on cops.

The massive increase in incarceration is due to the failed "War on Drugs" over the past 40 years and the corporate prison industrial complex that grew to provide the infrastructure for the prisoners. Build it and we will arrest them and house them in it. The blame goes once again to our corrupt bought and paid for Congress. Lobbyists for these private companies have driven the phenomenon.

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Guess we could blame the dead guy. You know, like the chief did.

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did you know cops are to blame for the high incarceration rate in america?

Here i thought politicians criminalizing drugs was

Did you know cops kill more dangerous than criminals?

Everytime a story like this comes out people do 2 things

1. Blame the cop without knowing the circumstances or all the facts
2. proceed to hold it up as an example of how all cops are bad.

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did you know cops are to blame for the high incarceration rate in america?

Here i thought politicians criminalizing drugs was

Did you know cops kill more dangerous than criminals?

Everytime a story like this comes out people do 2 things

1. Blame the cop without knowing the circumstances or all the facts
2. proceed to hold it up as an example of how all cops are bad.

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3. Defend the cops, you know, like the chief did.

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You forgot the third option, suck the cops arse religiously, without knowing all the facts either

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Cops can shoot (clearly shooting is not the only way to kill someone that talks back or refuses to bow) 1st and ask questions later (or not), however, we should wait until the jury verdict before we offer an opinion that is less that favorable to the police.

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1. Blame the cop without knowing the circumstances or all the facts
2. proceed to hold it up as an example of how all cops are bad.

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Dude, the PoPo went after the wrong guy in this instance.
They did so with lethal force.
Those are the circumstances.
They are indisputable.

I'd hope this is not an example of cops behavior in general.
Unfortunately, whether comon or not, experience teaches it is not exceedingly rare behavior either

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Dude, the PoPo went after the wrong guy in this instance.
They did so with lethal force.
Those are the circumstances.
They are indisputable.

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They didn't shoot him That is lethal force., and we don't know why they used force at all. We don't know all the fact souroudding the circumstances.

Freak accidents happen that are not expected. Is it possible they just brushed this poor guy? Yes very. I wouldn't' be surprised if that happened based off of what i saw. But there are other possibilities. we don't know the full story.

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I'd hope this is not an example of cops behavior in general.
Unfortunately, whether comon or not, experience teaches it is not exceedingly rare behavior either

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I would say it is rare. Cases like are just bette news than cops doing good things. People seem to trust the media when it suits their own perceptions of things.