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re: MAGA is dead, stick a fork in it. Has been successfully co-opted

Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:45 am to
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
32252 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:45 am to
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Democrats benefit the most from those who say, “MAGA is dead.”

The Democrats core political argument over the years has always been “We’re not running against Republicans. We’re running against MAGA.”

When self-identified “right-wing” figures say “MAGA is dead” it lets the Democrats position themselves as the stable alternative by default and allows them to say, “See? Even THEY admit it.”

When MAGA-aligned commentators declare the movement dead, it’s the arguments that dominate headlines. The energy shifts from offense to blame. The Democrats don’t need excitement — they need comparative exhaustion on the other side.

This is far more useful than Democrats saying it themselves.

The people insisting “MAGA IS DEAD” might believe they’re attacking @realDonaldTrump or “the establishment,” but they’re committing the most helpful unforced error the Left has ever received in recent years — because their political survival depends on it.

Hardcore MAGA voters were never their target. Prove me wrong.
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Has been successfully co-opted


The only thing co-opted is you & your cronies so I guess congrats on that
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297469 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:45 am to
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we have 3 more years with POTUS Donald Trump.


Enjoy the increased national debt.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2876 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:45 am to
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One must ask though, what does Trump have to gain by doing this? He has power, he has money, he has fame. All the things that the establishment can promise most people are meaningless to Trump because he already has it.


He owes them. Literally. Nobody attains such wealth and power without external "help".

I know this will be unpopular, but Trump is not one of "us" -- No billionaire is. He's one of them.

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This is why I dont think its nefarious on his part.


I bought that narrative as well for a short time -- which also included all the constant persecutions, prosecutions and obstruction to his Presidency. Made him appear to be very independent and "taking big ones for the team". Was it all real? Or scripted?

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I do believe he thinks that hes making things better but once again, hes surrounded by snakes feeding him bullshite. Hes still trying to play the DC game the way its always been played. I think he also is afraid to overstep that line


That is the narrative and "reality" with which we are presented. If there are that many "snakes" in DC obstructing policy and law, is it possible a "coup" has already taken place?

Moreover, IF it's true that a US President is actually "afraid to overstep" any line, what are we actually inferring? That there might be a Shadow Ruling Cabal who trump (no pun intended) Presidential authority?
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2876 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:46 am to
Nice!

I'll be reviewing this.

Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8794 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:46 am to
DJT has done many things I like, he’s done a few things I don’t, and I do get irritated that many of his appointments have been put on the shelf to collect dust by the Dems while the always feckless passive-aggressive establishment D.C. Pubs just sit there (like they do best).
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297469 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:47 am to
Its the most perfect explanation of the Trump personality cult Ive ever read.

Prior to that point, most posters here agreed with me on virtually every topic.

This post was edited on 12/27/25 at 9:49 am
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8794 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:56 am to
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The core group 100% is. Their entire existence is to defend the name of trump. Not all Trump voters are cultist.


The hard-core DJT can do no wrong types were a direct, extreme opposite reaction to those like yourself who take the baseline approach that there is nothing the man can do that’s right.

Predictably, extremists will always prompt the rise of an opposite extreme.

Neither extreme can be accused of using their God-given brains. They mainly react to the opposite extreme.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2876 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:57 am to
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This doesnt pass any logic test. Why would Trump, who definitely is a notorious narcissist, agree to do this?


Yes, he is an absolute narcissist. But ultimately even he has bosses. The pyramid rules. Their orders and his debt to his brotherhood supersede any personal opinion. (My theory anyway. But hey, I'm just a CT kook )
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297469 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:58 am to
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The hard-core DJT can do no wrong types were a direct, extreme opposite reaction to those like yourself


You have it backwards.

Conservatives like myself are a reaction to your Orange trojan horse trying to hijack the conservative movement for progressive economics and globalism.
This post was edited on 12/27/25 at 9:59 am
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41070 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:00 am to
Cry more snowflake
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10327 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:01 am to
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Enjoy the increased national debt.


Its been irrelevant for years
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
11430 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:01 am to
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MAGA is dead,

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297469 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:02 am to
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Its been irrelevant for years


The inflation level since 2020 says differently.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8794 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:04 am to
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Conservatives like myself are a reaction to your Orange trojan horse trying to hijack the conservative movement for progressive economics and globalism.


“My” Orange Trojan horse. I have been a DJT supporter but have often been critical of him. My post history is out there.

Your childlike reaction though making sure you get an “Orange” dig in there to boot helps to actually underscore my point.

You’re an extremist who doesn’t think, you just react.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10327 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:04 am to
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But ultimately even he has bosses. The pyramid rules.


I can subscribe to people behind the scenes with lots of power. I can subscribe to theories...if they pass simple logic. Trump would have never given up his life he had before to just follow orders. Your theory is illogical
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
24837 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:05 am to
I thought Rise of the Panicans was a box office flop. I guess some escaped into the wild
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297469 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:07 am to
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You’re an extremist who doesn’t think, you just react.


Kinda funny, I was one of trumps biggest supporters vs Russian Collusion, but you people have your head so far up his arse you will never know.



Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
14801 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:07 am to
Yup. Great post brother. Its over. The neocons killed it.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89305 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:07 am to
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You are off your meds again bruh


he is nearing TX tiger levels of conspiracy theory BS.
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
1629 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:07 am to
The thread that keeps going trying to convince people maga is dead.
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