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re: MAGA is dead, stick a fork in it. Has been successfully co-opted

Posted on 12/27/25 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 2:36 pm to
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The sad thing is the GOP voters gave Trump the White House with a nice electoral vote victory, the House, the Senate and has SCOTUS

but as soon as he assumed the White House the Kusher faction moved in and co-opted the MAGA agenda. Loyalty only goes one way I guess.


Yup. You would have thought, "Hey -- now we have the Presidency, Congress, SCOTUS -- let's cook!" But no. We got Dem-spending from the GOP -- "Big Beautiful Honkin' Bill". What phonies.

Ku$h is obviously exploiting his dual loyaltie$ and no friend of the USA. But Trump didn't need his $kulking, creepy $IL to help him fugetabout "making America great". He's was doing that immediately as you know.

Another reminder that Trump first day of his Presidency made his very public priority (inexplicably) introducing tyranny-advocate tech bros Ellison and Altman. They are tasked with enslaving America via mandatory AI Biometric ID, harvesting every American's most intimate data, THEN using AI to watch us and enforce "proper behavior" via "Social Score" data. This is bout making Skynet and Klaus Schwab Great Again -- not "America".
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93893 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 2:39 pm to
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I dont vote for New York Democrats (AOC and Trump) or California Democrats (Newsome)



We know you are lying but who is your preferred candidate?
You always complain but never provide a solution
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297558 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 2:40 pm to

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We know you are lying


Youre literally the person on this board who said Gavin would win because he's so handsome.

Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 2:41 pm to
I highly doubt that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297558 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 2:42 pm to
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I highly doubt that.


You must not be familiar with his work.

He absolutely] said that and is a huge Newsome fanboy.

If Newsome and Trump got married, STDtiger would be in heaven.
This post was edited on 12/27/25 at 2:44 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 2:43 pm to
I’d have to see it to believe it.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 2:48 pm to
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Would whomever or whatever is actually pulling the strings either be of leftist leaning or rightist leaning, an either/or situation, and as such the resulting power struggle between the two differing factions/interests? Or is it more a “uniparty” situation, thus power struggle wouldn’t or doesn’t play into it?


IMO neither a Left vs Right thing. Your assumption is correct -- both parties (as well as certain high profile members) know their respective role for public consumption. That's the paradigm with which we are presented: Dem vs GOP. Good guys vs Bad guys. The "party fight" is window dressing. Always has been. The string-pullers are in Europe.

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it would seem in the situation of uniparty type regime, and those who are actually pulling the strings essentially have absolute power, then why do we even ever see such highly contentious elections?


Yeah. To give us the illusion of choice and a vote that "matters".

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It wouldn’t seem to matter one way or another whether it’s a Democrat or Republican in office…..they would be “following” the same “orders” either way, correct? Is it all precisely scripted Theater?




Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26323 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 2:51 pm to
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IMO neither a Left vs Right thing. Your assumption is correct -- both parties (as well as certain high profile members) know their respective role for public consumption. That's the paradigm with which we are presented: Dem vs GOP. Good guys vs Bad guys. The "party fight" is window dressing. Always has been. The string-pullers are in Europe.



I am glad someone gets it. The two party system is a scam. It's an illusion of choice but both parties serve the same masters and donors. They will differ on meaningless issues like transgenders and abortion but for the shite that actually matters they are in alignment.

Way too many are caught up in the binary trap. When I criticize Trump I always get the "What are you going to do vote Kamala and Democrats?" No, I will just stay home and not vote at all. There is a 3rd option you know, We aren't all forced to show up and vote for one the two parties.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93893 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:01 pm to
Yes i know i speak the truth

So.who is your preferred candiate to lead the conservative charge you prtend to be a part o

We know you wont answer
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:20 pm to
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I am glad someone gets it. The two party system is a scam. It's an illusion of choice but both parties serve the same masters and donors. They will differ on meaningless issues like transgenders and abortion but for the shite that actually matters they are in alignment.

Way too many are caught up in the binary trap. When I criticize Trump I always get the "What are you going to do vote Kamala and Democrats?" No, I will just stay home and not vote at all. There is a 3rd option you know, We aren't all forced to show up and vote for one the two parties.

Stupefying. So you’re so confidently asserting that it doesn’t matter whether Trump or Harris is President, plus or minus a few “meaningless issues,” there’s no measurable difference? Yeah, proudly count me as one who doesn’t “get it” on that one.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297558 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:22 pm to
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doesn’t matter whether Trump or Harris is President, plus or minus a few “meaningless issues,” there’s no measurable difference?


On some social issues, sure. Fiscally, its all the same.

Both Trump and Biden contributed a similar amount to the fiscal abomination in 4 years, there is no difference here.

Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:26 pm to
I’m trying to discern the basis of there being so little difference that it’s essentially pointless to even go vote. It would seem to take a pretty strong explanation of the extreme lack of differences/distinctions amongst the candidates to warrant that significant a position.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26323 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:32 pm to
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I’m trying to discern the basis of there being so little difference that it’s essentially pointless to even go vote. It would seem to take a pretty strong explanation of the extreme lack of differences/distinctions amongst the candidates to warrant that significant a position.



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Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:35 pm to
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the perfect example now is john cornyn. to watch his re-election commercials, you would think he started maga

Cassidy in Louisiana is another. It’s nauseating.
From The Hill August 2025
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Cassidy has looked to make amends with President Trump after he became one of seven GOP senators to vote to convict the president in his 2021 Senate impeachment trial after the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.

The two-term GOP senator has since tried to repair his relationship with the president, including backing some of Trump’s more controversial nominees, such as Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in his confirmation vote earlier this year.

The ads I’ve seen are replays of his previous campaign ads where he wrapped himself in the American flag and blathered on about he and President Trump were going to fix everything.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297558 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:39 pm to

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I’m trying to discern the basis of there being so little difference that it’s essentially pointless to even go vote.


Fiscally they all lead to the same place.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:40 pm to
That’s your proposed basis for abdicating your “duty” as an American citizen to participate/contribute to the electoral process? Of course I’m being a little hyperbolic with my phraseology there, but I’m thus far unimpressed (or unmoved, if you will) with the proposed justification for the decision to abstain, for the stated reason that it’s essentially a exercise in futility, as the net difference between the two candidates (or whichever two candidates, any given election) is at best negligible.
This post was edited on 12/27/25 at 3:44 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57214 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 4:37 pm to
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Some other observers also note that some "elites" believe they alone define and own the mechanisms and loopholes of law


This is my favorite part. What are some of these loopholes? And who, specifically, are these country owning elites?
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57010 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 4:38 pm to
If you start seeing decent conservatives as the problem, maybe you are the problem.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86312 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 5:04 pm to
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How is DOGE doing these days


Doge and Musk’s role was never set to be permanent.



Posted by texas tortilla
houston
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 8:22 am to
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