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re: MAGA campaign if you read this: here’s a plan for the illegals

Posted on 2/3/24 at 10:52 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299293 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 10:52 am to
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You truly are a dumb SoB if you think this board is split, lol!




How many genders are you?

Start any subject about the pending election chief, see how it goes.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60918 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 10:53 am to
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A president is not a dictator


No. The border was not “under control” under Trump. There were STILL way too many people crossing over. The acceptable number is not around a million+ a year. It’s zero.

And to your point. He is not a dictator and has limited powers so I will believe it when I see it. He couldn’t do it before and he won’t now - unless the true problem is addressed.

Reread what I said in my initial post.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 10:53 am to
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The solution is is simple. Thats fact. There's just no will to apply actual solutions.

Some of which are already encoded in law. There are simple solutions, but politics prevents them from being applied


So when you take into account the willfull defiance of law, the corrupt political practices of both parties, the overwhelming corporate influences that shape border policy, the expected, national revolt and profound social conflict that would come from attempted mass deportation and the ensuing international crisis.

When all of these things are considered, maybe there are no "simple solutions" after all.

Or I could just be over thinking it. I'll consider that possibility.
This post was edited on 2/3/24 at 10:57 am
Posted by Larry_Hotdogs
Texas
Member since Jun 2019
2071 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 10:53 am to
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Commence the shelling of cartel assets inside Mexico.


I like the plan, but… this is not the thing to do. There are other things that should take priority, like identifying and removing cartel-compromised folks from leadership positions, finding and seizing cash and resources, sabotaging ops, and getting the local people to push back with appropriate support.
This post was edited on 2/3/24 at 10:55 am
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11726 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 10:54 am to
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Add: Mine the border.


Televise it like the Running Man..
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 10:59 am to
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Commence the shelling of cartel assets inside Mexico.


I like the plan, but… this is not the thing to do. There are other things that should take priority, like identifying and removing cartel-compromised folks from leadership positions, finding and seizing cash and resources, sabotaging ops, and getting the local people to push back with appropriate support.


This is a part of a concise, detailed list of "simple solutions". You're being like the others. Stop poking holes in it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299293 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:01 am to
Immigration slows when economic times are tough in the USA.

But this current crop is being organized and sent. This isnt organic migrant movement.

I would love to know what these people are being promised.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56550 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:07 am to
Who are the 15 downvotes?

Come forward
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:12 am to
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Immigration slows when economic times are tough in the USA.

But this current crop is being organized and sent. This isnt organic migrant movement.

I would love to know what these people are being promised.


This is true and often overlooked. I'm glad you brought it up.

There was a time a Mexican had to work and endure hardships to get to America and as a result, we got their toughest and most resilient. Now Mexico cleans out its ghettos and puts them on a bus.

Is there a "simple solution" to this complex problem? I'm sure there is, I just can't see it. Can someone point it out?

Can someone tell me how we can "simply" force our will on Mexico, the same way Donald Trump forced his and made Mexico pay for the wall he didn't build? That was a "simple solution". Did it work out. If not, will it this time around?

This thread is telling me "simple solutions" are the best. I need to hear more of them.

This post was edited on 2/3/24 at 11:13 am
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:25 am to
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Immigration slows when economic times are tough in the USA.

But this current crop is being organized and sent. This isnt organic migrant movement.

I would love to know what these people are being promised.


They don't have to be promised anything and asking that question sort of indicates that you have no idea what it's like being a Mexican in Mexico.

The worst American slum is a thousand times better than being poor in Mexico and they know this. Mexico is a legitimately shitty country. It's awful and Americans lose sight of the fact that there is an underdeveloped country, almost as bad as any in Africa, right there below us.

They're not promised a better life. They don't have to be. They already know anything across the border is automatically better than what they're leaving behind.

Posted by Larry_Hotdogs
Texas
Member since Jun 2019
2071 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:40 am to
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This is a part of a concise, detailed list of "simple solutions". You're being like the others. Stop poking holes in it.


So a concise, detailed, simple solution is shelling another country? Is it painful to be so ignorant? That's not really concise, detailed, or simple.

Maybe the others are right. Twat. Revise the list.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
1017 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:49 am to
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No. The border was not “under control” under Trump. There were STILL way too many people crossing over. The acceptable number is not around a million+ a year. It’s zero.

And to your point. He is not a dictator and has limited powers so I will believe it when I see it. He couldn’t do it before and he won’t now - unless the true problem is addressed.

Reread what I said in my initial post.


Zero is an unattainable number you prick. The problem was addressed but the left in congress made any progress impossible. The difference being Trump's policy was to deport illegals not give them welfare, cash and send them anywhere in the country. The true problem? Care to illustrate? A big hit would be to stop giving the UN money. The big draw is being let into the country with full welfare benefits. These benefits are being given out without the individuals being adjudicated as legitimate asylum seekers.

LINK
This post was edited on 2/3/24 at 11:53 am
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
9709 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:51 am to
$2, 000.00 reward for every illegal you give good info on leading to deportation. Incentivize the community to turn them in.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:52 am to
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So a concise, detailed, simple solution is shelling another country? Is it painful to be so ignorant? That's not really concise, detailed, or simple.

Maybe the others are right. Twat. Revise the list.


No. I completely agree with you.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299293 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:53 am to
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They don't have to be promised anything and asking that question sort of indicates that you have no idea what it's like being a Mexican in Mexico.


Probably, but to show how out of touch you are, most of the recent Caravans arent originating in Mexico, but in Central America.

theyre being organized by NGOs, this isnt organic.
This post was edited on 2/3/24 at 11:55 am
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
1017 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:57 am to
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They don't have to be promised anything and asking that question sort of indicates that you have no idea what it's like being a Mexican in Mexico.

The worst American slum is a thousand times better than being poor in Mexico and they know this. Mexico is a legitimately shitty country. It's awful and Americans lose sight of the fact that there is an underdeveloped country, almost as bad as any in Africa, right there below us.

They're not promised a better life. They don't have to be. They already know anything across the border is automatically better than what they're leaving behind.



Funny post. Do you write fairy tales for leftist magazines? I know many Mexicans that come here to work. If it is so bad why do they return home to Mexico? All of Mexico is not some Juarez slum. Guess you have never been there. Many Mexican's recognize things are not perfect in their country but would kick your Puzzy arse for saying that to their faces.
This post was edited on 2/3/24 at 1:00 pm
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
1017 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:59 am to
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Probably, but to show how out of touch you are, most of the recent Caravans arent originating in Mexico, but in Central America.

theyre being organized by NGOs, this isnt organic.


The UN is giving them pocket money to make the trip, and they get that money from the US. The UN is pretty much a puppet of China with Muslim countries all in on the invasion also.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 12:04 pm to
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Probably, but to show how out of touch you are, most of the recent Caravans arent originating in Mexico, but in Central America.


You keep bringing up excellent points and on that particular point, if the United States of America managed its southern border with the same violence and hostility Mexico manages its southern border, we would be accused of crimes against humanity. No shite.

Those that get through Mexico are allowed to get through by the Mexican Government. They can stop it any time they want.

The vast, overwhelming majority of people who get to America however remain Mexican and that's exactly how the Mexican Government wants it. You know why? Because Mexico wants Mexicans in America, that's why. They want American dollars mailed back to Mexico, not Nicaragua, El Salvador or wherever else. It's a significant part of their economy.

I'm not at all out of touch with this. What happens on the Mexican northern border. Mexico allows to happen.
This post was edited on 2/3/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 12:06 pm to
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The UN is giving them pocket money to make the trip, and they get that money from the US. The UN is pretty much a puppet of China with Muslim countries all in on the invasion also.


Yes and there has to be a "simple solution" to this. The OP said so.

Can someone point it out?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299293 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 12:07 pm to
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The vast, overwhelming majority of people who get to America however remain Mexican


Most of these caravans arent originating in Mexico.

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