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re: Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry bans teaching of critical race theory in schools
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:58 am to Pettifogger
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:58 am to Pettifogger
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Guys it just so happens that white people disproportionately get away with high profile murder at rates sufficient to eliminate the statistic gap of racial murder disproportionality
It’s amazing isn’t it. Statistics suck when you don’t like the results.
My guess is that if the statistics said the opposite 4chubbies would be smitten with them and a staunch defender.
A former teacher turned SJW/perpetrator apologist tends to believe things can’t be as they are.
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:00 am to 4cubbies
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Why don't you post this evidence?
Because this is an obnoxious way to engage (or in reality, feign engagement). You know with absolute certainty what I'm going to post. You've already preempted it with the claim that because all crimes aren't reported or well-documented, you can disregard it.
So you're deflecting and demanding that we post statistics you've seen before only so you can summarily disregard them.
LINK
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:01 am to 4cubbies
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I'm sorry, I totally missed your post proving that CRT is taught in K-12 public schools in Louisiana. I actually taught at several public schools in Louisiana and CRT was never part of the curriculum, so I'd love to see which schools found the instructional minutes to devote to CRT.
I genuinely think that you don't believe you're intellectually dishonest OR you really don't think we see that you are.
"Progeny of it"
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:04 am to Pettifogger
Because a giant workbook with CRT in large font isn’t slammed on the desk of school kids means it isn’t being taught.
Leftists love nuance until they don’t and then they turn to literalism.
Leftists love nuance until they don’t and then they turn to literalism.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 9:04 am
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:04 am to roadGator
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My guess is that if the statistics said the opposite 4chubbies would be smitten with them and a staunch defender.
A former teacher turned SJW/perpetrator apologist tends to believe things can’t be as they are.
I think a lot of it is the moral and intellectual superiority that the left has convinced themselves accompanies mere adoption and regurgitation of their ideological talking points.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:08 am to roadGator
We had the original poster claim equity and CRT should be viewed distinctly and then dismissed it when the poster child of intersectionality (Crenshaw) turned his argument on its head with pretty direct refutation of those who would try and distance equity efforts from CRT.
"Although CRT began as a movement in the law, it has rapidly spread beyond that discipline. Today, many in the field of education consider themselves critical race theorists who use CRT's ideas to understand issues of school discipline and hierarchy, tracking, controversies over curriculum and history, and IQ and achievement testing."
- Angela P. Harris
"Although CRT began as a movement in the law, it has rapidly spread beyond that discipline. Today, many in the field of education consider themselves critical race theorists who use CRT's ideas to understand issues of school discipline and hierarchy, tracking, controversies over curriculum and history, and IQ and achievement testing."
- Angela P. Harris
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:08 am to Pettifogger
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You know with absolute certainty what I'm going to post
No I don't.
The FBI table you posted shows that of the around 50% of murders that were cleared, 2,840 people with white skin were convicted of committing murders while 3,140 people with black skin were convicted of committing murders. Of the cleared murders, 52% of them were committed by people with black skin and 48% were committed by people with white skin.
So of the nearly 50% of murders that were cleared, about half of those were committed by people with black skin and the other half were committed by people with white skin.
I posted this:
> My understanding is that you believe most of the uncleared crimes are committed by people with black skin. I'm asking why you think that. Can you answer that question?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:11 am to 4cubbies
quote:
My understanding is that you believe most of the uncleared crimes are committed by people with black skin. I'm asking why you think that. Can you answer that question?
I believe a disproportionate number of murders in the United States are committed by black Americans.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:11 am to Pettifogger
quote:
I genuinely think that you don't believe you're intellectually dishonest OR you really don't think we see that you are.
You're once again refusing to support your claims with evidence.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:11 am to Pettifogger
quote:
I believe a disproportionate number of murders in the United States are committed by black Americans.
I've asked repeatedly why you think this. The evidence you posted shows that about half of cleared murders were committed by white people.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:12 am to 4cubbies
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The evidence you posted shows that about half of cleared murders were committed by white people.
I'm not trying to be funny, do you know what proportionality refers to?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:14 am to 4cubbies
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I've asked repeatedly why you think this. The evidence you posted shows that about half of cleared murders were committed by white people.
You're a teacher and you don't understand what "disproportionate" means?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:15 am to 4cubbies
FFS, he’s not talking about raw numbers of murders. 
CRT is definitely used is your line of work. It’s dripping off you it’s so thick.
CRT is definitely used is your line of work. It’s dripping off you it’s so thick.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:16 am to Pettifogger
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I'm not trying to be funny, do you know what proportionality refers to?
I'm not trying to be funny either. Disproportionate to what? The total number of murders?
The claims started as "Black people commit the most crime" - what has it shifted to now?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:19 am to 4cubbies
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There is no evidence that any K-12 classroom teaches CRT.
Well, when you lie like this there’s really no point discussing anything with you.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:20 am to Pettifogger
quote:With illegal aliens giving them a run for their money.
I believe a disproportionate number of murders in the United States are committed by black Americans.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:21 am to marchballer
quote:
When did conservatives start embracing cancel culture?
When did you leftists change the definition of cancel culture?
Who was cancelled?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:22 am to 4cubbies
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The claims started as "Black people commit the most crime" - what has it shifted to now?
You want honest engagement but you're going to graft other peoples' arguments onto me? Ok.
Take your best guess to the disproportionality argument I'm making. It's one you've only heard 1000 times and one that is widely believed by all but the most earnest progressives.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:23 am to 4cubbies
quote:Aside from sentencing disparities, having worked (volunteered inside prisons), it's about 80/20 black to white. Here anyway.
The claims started as "Black people commit the most crime" - what has it shifted to now?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:23 am to Diamondawg
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With illegal aliens giving them a run for their money.
Maybe
I think crime by illegal aliens is obviously a major issue given it shouldn't be a thing in a sane country, but there are so many illegal aliens that I'm not sure how the proportionality figures would come out, honestly.
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