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re: Lori Loughlin Was Just Hit With More Charges
Posted on 4/9/19 at 5:39 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Posted on 4/9/19 at 5:39 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:Which makes their actions all the more asinine, not the enforcement of the law for a crime that is easy to avoid.
Kids get into schools all the time despite not meeting the academic requirements.
They could have easy donated to the university, like all the other wealthy people who have pampered their lazy children for 18 years.
And if for some reason they though that wouldn't have been enough to get her admitted, then that's even more asinine since she's probably not even going to make it through 4 years with an easy major.
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Posted on 4/9/19 at 5:40 pm to buckeye_vol
It's still not worthy of jail time. The forfeited money, bad publicity, plus a fine would be more than enough. This is bullshite.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 4/9/19 at 5:40 pm to SirWinston
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But affirmative action is legal and steals far more spots from deserving kids.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 5:41 pm to L.A.
Why waste tax-payer money on this? If Jussie Smollett gets off after planning and implementing a fake hate-crime, these people will never serve a day.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 5:42 pm to SirWinston
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It's still not worthy of jail time. The forfeited money, bad publicity, plus a fine would be more than enough. This is bullshite.
agreed
Posted on 4/9/19 at 5:45 pm to SirWinston
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It's still not worthy of jail time. The forfeited money, bad publicity, plus a fine would be more than enough.
That would not deter rich parents from doing the same thing in the future that she did but some jail time (at least 6 months) would do the job of deterring rich parents from doing the same thing in the future.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 5:55 pm to KCT
quote:She probably saw the writing on the wall, and knew that a recurring role on a show with one season left and a couple of Hallmark movies isn't going propel her from decades long relative obscurity into commercial and critical acclaimed roles like Robert Downey Jr. and Matthew McConaughey.
Aunt Becky ain't winning no Academy award anytime soon.
So maybe she thought her next best option was Real Housewives, since they are ready have a white-collar criminal in one (some Jersey lady and her husband) and a less than stellar actress in another (Denise Richards).
And the fact that I know those details about Real Housewives is quite pathetic since my wife starts watching them when I'm planning on being busy with something else.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:03 pm to SirWinston
quote:So just like a whole slew of other criminal offenses that put people in jail, most of whom (like most people) who don't have tens millions of wealth and luxuries waiting for them.
It's still not worthy of jail time. The forfeited money, bad publicity, plus a fine would be more than enough. This is bull shite.
So while I wish we would just stop pointlessly throwing anyone, these goofballs included, I'm not going to get suddenly more worked up about these rich, famous, and laughably stupid people reaping the everyday consequences of our screwed up system.
And she'll probably end up writing a tell-all book or producing a documentary about it and up further ahead when it's all said and done.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:03 pm to L.A.
Pays $500k of her money to get her brat kid in a school that she'll never use the degree...prosecutor wants years in jail. Jussie promotes a race war and costs $130k of taxpayer money...charges dropped.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:09 pm to L.A.
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Ivy Jade or whatever TF her name is.
She needs to end up in porn since she already has the name for it.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:15 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
quote:Jussie's case is a great example of the dysfunction in our criminal justice system. But of all the injustices and dysfunction in our criminal justice system that to compare it too, this case is a weird example to use as a comparison.
Pays $500k of her money to get her brat kid in a school that she'll never use the degree...prosecutor wants years in jail. Jussie promotes a race war and costs $130k of taxpayer money...charges dropped.
I mean I listened to Season 3 of Serial right after Jussie's charges were dropped, and there were plenty of examples in that far more relevant to it than this. Like Jussie, she's rich and will end up with far less of consequences than they're threatening to pursue.
Most people don’t have the resources to truly fight back, or scare the system into giving up before the fight. It doesn’t matter what race, religion, gender, orientation, etc., one is, those who can afford it fair far better against the system than those who can’t.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:22 pm to buckeye_vol
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But all the injustices and dysfunction in our criminal justice system that to compare it too, this case is a weird example to use as a comparison.
There are certainly better comparisons...just what was at the top of my mind. Main point being, you can't champion justice reform and want to quit putting people in taxpayer funded jails for trivial shite, and think this warrants tossing a mom in jail for trying to improve her shithead kid's life. Put rapists, murderers, other violent offenders in jail...fine the shite out of this and move on. I think Martha Stewart going to jail was stupid too...whatever the realized gains were, double the fine and move on. Government/mafia gets their money and the people aren't paying for their incarceration.
ETA - I've said previously that Jussie shouldn't be incarcerated, but should pay out his arse. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of prosecutors.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:39 pm to SirWinston
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It's still not worthy of jail time. The forfeited money, bad publicity, plus a fine would be more than enough. This is bull shite.
Agreed.
This isn't a crime worthy of anything more than a fine and probation.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:52 pm to Perfect Circle
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Why waste tax-payer money on this? If Jussie Smollett gets off after planning and implementing a fake hate-crime, these people will never serve a day.
I would be willing to bet she spends some time in prison. Yes, Smollett should too
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:57 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
quote:Agreed. But do you really think that will happen? Our whole system relies on these types of threats, which is why they overcharge, stack charges, etc., and threaten the harshest penalties, usually unreasonable even for many crimes that should land people and jail. They then use that to either get people to plea to something more reasonable, which is many cases isn’t reasonable at all (e.g., often still overcharged and far too many are innocent), or help persuade a jury to do the same for them if it goes to trial.
It's still not worthy of jail time. The forfeited money, bad publicity, plus a fine would be more than enough. This is bull shite.
And what is possible in this case, since we’ve seen it many times, prosecutors maximize their profile for as long as they can when they land a high profile case. For a bit more borderline crimes, they often do take it to trial, but for less serious ones like this, they take advantage of the publicity and make it some big win against crime regardless of what actually happens after people lose interest.
quote:And that’s why I found this season of Serial so interesting and frustrating (plus it’s in Cleveland). So much is just crapshoot depending on the prosecutor, the judge, or a slew of other things that have nothing to do with justice.
ETA - I've said previously that Jussie shouldn't be incarcerated, but should pay out his arse. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of prosecutors.
And what makes it even more frustrating is that most of the time, I think they’re even doing what they think is right, even to help rehabilitate the criminal, but they’re usually basing it on they’re subjective gut feeling even in the moment.
And worse yet, most of them time there little else to base it on. There is little objective data to determine what works and what doesn’t work. They’re just pumping out pleas and punishments with only they’re gut feelings and some broad guidelines.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:02 pm to teke184
The only person who might see jail time is the guy who was orchestrating everything
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:08 pm to buckeye_vol
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But do you really think that will happen?
The prosecutor wants 10 months jail time for those that took the plea. Adding money laundering tells me they want much more for Aunt Becky.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:17 pm to tigerskin
quote:Wouldn’t it be nice if they had to do something (in addition to the financial repayments) to actually remediate whatever wrong they caused or perpetuated? Like Jussie’s punishment could be helping the Innocent Project with someone falsely of rape, since they only handle the most serious crimes, and rape is the most likely one to be based on a false accusation of a crime.
I would be willing to bet she spends some time in prison. Yes, Smollett should too
And maybe Lori and the rest of them should help students who are capable of getting accepted into colleges on their own merit, but don’t have a lot of support and resources (financial or just no close adult to help guide them more than a counselor) to help them figure out the whole process and apply for the colleges that for their goals and strengths.
Not only could they help right a wrong, maybe they’ll actually see the wrong and be less likely to do it again because it’s wrong, not just because they got caught and thrown in jail. Besides, if they don’t see the wrong, then they’re probably more likely to do something like it again, but do a better job of not getting caught.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:19 pm to tigerskin
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I would be willing to bet she spends some time in prison.
You sure about that? She just has rejected a plea deal.
ETA: Prior to the new charges.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:19 pm to buckeye_vol
I honestly can't stand these hypocrites but at the same time, it just doesn't animate me to the point of thinking anything here warrants jail time
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