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re: looks like Ukraine war is quickly winding down
Posted on 8/16/23 at 7:12 pm to VictoryTiger
Posted on 8/16/23 at 7:12 pm to VictoryTiger
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who hold the feelings that “we must protect Ukraine!”.
Actually, I give precisely zero fricks about Ukraine itself. My problem is that we're obligated by treaty to protect countries SURROUNDING Ukraine. If we can keep Russia out of those countries by donating weapons to Ukraine, then so be it. I specifically DO NOT want a single drop of American blood spilled in Europe.
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 7:17 pm to tide06
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Well they are redistributing a ton of our wealth so we have that going for us. No one is quite sure where, but no worries.
It’s going to politicians’ friends and relatives via defense contracts.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 7:32 pm to Trevaylin
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Time for the US warmongers to start backing away
That would mean the US military suppliers would take a black eye in prestige.
This post was edited on 8/16/23 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 8/16/23 at 7:35 pm to Stealth Matrix
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That would mean the US military suppliers would take a black eye in prestige.
Wut?!?
Posted on 8/16/23 at 9:39 pm to VictoryTiger
Up to 24 guys now who disagree and credit to Tantal for at least speaking his mind. What do the 23 of you cowards have to say. You’re cowards
Posted on 8/16/23 at 9:41 pm to Tantal
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Not even close. Most major countries do it far worse than we do, but nobody gives a shite because they're not invested in those currencies. Don't get me wrong, I don't support our quantitative easing, deficit spending, and printing money out of thin air, but we're far from being the worst. We're just the only one that matters.
Well it pays to flood the globe with our money, means they use it. Plus all the money that gets sent out of here from workers not from here.
Oh some tsunami hit some where? Here is some US money for you to use.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 9:44 pm to Tantal
It doesn’t matter what you want personally you dumb arse. Your collective support for this war will lead to it.
I can’t even respond to the rest here. You are not smart enough to understand what I’m saying. As part of fixing this country, getting rid of people like you is required. No wonder we’re at where we are.
I can’t even respond to the rest here. You are not smart enough to understand what I’m saying. As part of fixing this country, getting rid of people like you is required. No wonder we’re at where we are.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 9:46 pm to dgnx6
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Oh some tsunami hit some where? Here is some US money for you to use.
That's fiscal policy (POOR fiscal policy), not monetary policy. My only point was that our monetary policy isn't nearly as egregious as others'. What China does with their yuan is far worse than what we've done with the dollar.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 9:50 pm to VictoryTiger
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Your collective support for this war will lead to it.
It's in the U.S.' best interests for this to end in Ukraine rather than going into Poland and Romania, which is where it's headed if Ukraine falls. If it goes beyond Ukraine, then we're in the fight, which is where I DON'T want us to be. I'm not sure why you're having such a difficult time grasping that.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 9:51 pm to Tantal
You are so economically engaged. Do you have any idea what we could used domestically with the money we spent on this war that Ukraine was bound to lose anyways? What the money multiplier affect of it is?Is it worth the lives spent? Is it worth the chance that your neighbors kid could die as a result? You’re an “I support the troops!” guy aren’t you?
Posted on 8/16/23 at 9:53 pm to Tantal
Explain. This sounds like europes problem. And if it was to the degree you’ve suggested, why is a nation like Hungary suggesting this conflict is a waste of everyone’s time?
Posted on 8/16/23 at 9:58 pm to VictoryTiger
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Do you have any idea what we could used domestically with the money we spent on this war that Ukraine was bound to lose anyways?
First off, I've never supported sending a dime of liquid currency to Ukraine. Only our older equipment, which we've always given to allies when we replace it anyway, and maybe some newly manufactured artillery shells.
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Is it worth the lives spent?
That's up to Ukraine. They've apparently decided that it is. It's their home after all.
quote:Neighbor's kid? My own sons are of military age, which is precisely why I want this to end in Ukraine and not spill into a NATO country where we're treaty-bound to get involved.
Is it worth the chance that your neighbors kid could die as a result?
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You’re an “I support the troops!” guy aren’t you?
Yes. I support them by not wanting them to go fight in another of Europe's wars. If some old equipment is the price that we have to pay to avoid it, I'm good with that.
This post was edited on 8/16/23 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:01 pm to Tantal
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I'm not sure why you're having such a difficult time grasping that.
Probably because your entire premise is based upon the Neocon fearmongering position that if we don’t piss away a lot of money on Ukraine then the Russians will take over Europe.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:03 pm to thebigmuffaletta
They don’t get this brother.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:09 pm to VictoryTiger
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Explain. This sounds like europes problem. And if it was to the degree you’ve suggested, why is a nation like Hungary suggesting this conflict is a waste of everyone’s time?
First off, Viktor Orban is a semi puppet of Putin, so take what he says with a grain of salt. He's no better than Lukashenko.
Second, The whole purpose of this exercise from the Russian standpoint is to secure the geographical barriers from which Russia has previously been invaded. The main two are the Polish Gap and Bessarabian Gap, which are on the other side of Ukraine. If you'll recall WW2, the Germans invaded through the Polish Gap while the Romanians came around the Carpathian Mountains and through the Bessarabian Gap in Operation Barbarossa. The Ottomans have also invaded through the Bessarabian Gap previously. The Soviets lost millions of men. This is why they still have troops stationed in Kazakhstan and Georgia and keep Moldova destabilized through Transnistria. Those are where the geographical access points into Russia are. This is not a war of ideology. This is a war of simple geography.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:12 pm to Tantal
Nice. Deploy to fight the people you hate. Stop subject us to your personal opinions. Send your sons. Send your money. The best thing you can do for your family’s legacy is for you to all head over and never been seen again. America needs people who care about America
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:12 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Probably because your entire premise is based upon the Neocon fearmongering position that if we don’t piss away a lot of money on Ukraine then the Russians will take over Europe.
What do you think Russia's goal is here? Are you one of those that still believe that this is about Nazis in Ukraine?
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:16 pm to Tantal
What do you think the US’ goal is here? Are you one of those that still believe the US and their globalist allies don’t want regime change in Russia so they can bring them into the globalist regime?
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:16 pm to VictoryTiger
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and pretend to be sad when their neighbor’s kid gets his legs blown off
What an ugly thing to say.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:33 pm to Tantal
Neocons love peddling the lie that we aren’t sending money to Ukraine
CLAIM: The U.S. is not providing cash to Ukraine; it only supports the country through donated military equipment. AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. While the U.S. is indeed providing weapons and equipment to Ukraine, it has also provided billions in financial assistance to the country following Russia’s invasion.
CLAIM: The U.S. is not providing cash to Ukraine; it only supports the country through donated military equipment. AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. While the U.S. is indeed providing weapons and equipment to Ukraine, it has also provided billions in financial assistance to the country following Russia’s invasion.
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