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re: LOL, Candace goes there…moon landing.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:42 am to Jack Carter
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:42 am to Jack Carter
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Show me the evidence that we didn't.
You're the one making the allegations. You have the burden of proof. There's NO WAY to prove something didn't happen only that something did. That's the nature of science.
Mirrors on the moon that reflect lasers.
But only NASA has lasers strong enough to do so.
Footage of astronauts on the moon.
But the original footage was lost. Lol.
Space rocks brought back.
Tested and proven to be petrified wood.
Pictures of the landing sites.
Well... there's no way to fake a picture.
I'm not suggesting that it's a big conspiracy and we didn't walk on the moon. Actually IDGAF if we did or didn't. But the fact that the proof is bouncing laser beams off mirrors left there by astronauts and video footage despite the original footage being lost is pretty flimsy. We have video of a sitting POTUS getting his head scrambled by an assassin, but we lost the footage of the most significant scientific achievement in the history of mankind?
Just sounds preposterous.
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:54 am to GumboPot
In going down this rabbit hole, I discovered a brilliant series of essays that convinced me that we did NOT land men on the moon:
Wagging the Moondoggie: Part I
by Dave McGowan | Oct 1, 2009
“It is commonly believed that man will fly directly from the earth to the moon, but to do this, we would require a vehicle of such gigantic proportions that it would prove an economic impossibility. It would have to develop sufficient speed to penetrate the atmosphere and overcome the earth’s gravity and, having traveled all the way to the moon, it must still have enough fuel to land safely and make the return trip to earth. Furthermore, in order to give the expedition a margin of safety, we would not use one ship alone, but a minimum of three … each rocket ship would be taller than New York’s Empire State Building [almost ¼ mile high] and weigh about ten times the tonnage of the Queen Mary, or some 800,000 tons.”—Wernher von Braun, the father of the Apollo space program, writing in Conquest of the Moon
LINK
I HIGHLY recommend investing the hour to read the entire series. It truly changed my mind.
Wagging the Moondoggie: Part I
by Dave McGowan | Oct 1, 2009
“It is commonly believed that man will fly directly from the earth to the moon, but to do this, we would require a vehicle of such gigantic proportions that it would prove an economic impossibility. It would have to develop sufficient speed to penetrate the atmosphere and overcome the earth’s gravity and, having traveled all the way to the moon, it must still have enough fuel to land safely and make the return trip to earth. Furthermore, in order to give the expedition a margin of safety, we would not use one ship alone, but a minimum of three … each rocket ship would be taller than New York’s Empire State Building [almost ¼ mile high] and weigh about ten times the tonnage of the Queen Mary, or some 800,000 tons.”—Wernher von Braun, the father of the Apollo space program, writing in Conquest of the Moon
LINK
I HIGHLY recommend investing the hour to read the entire series. It truly changed my mind.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:55 am to ChatGPT of LA
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Show me the science where man can pass thru the radiation belt...let's start there
The van Allen belts are donut shaped an apparently maned space mission pass through the donut holes at the poles to avoid as much radiation as possible. The donut is made by earth's magnetosphere.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:58 am to Gifman
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We didn’t land on the moon. That’s like believing in Santa.
The longer i'm on this board, the more i realize that majority of posters on this website, are shockingly stupid, and cling to the dumbest conspiracy theories.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:59 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Mirrors on the moon that reflect lasers.
But only NASA has lasers strong enough to do so.
Footage of astronauts on the moon.
But the original footage was lost. Lol.
Space rocks brought back.
Tested and proven to be petrified wood.
Pictures of the landing sites.
Well... there's no way to fake a picture
Please provide the links to all of these conspiracies.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:33 am to IvoryBillMatt
I was just going to share that Wagging the Moondoggie, 14 part series.
There are a lot of "coincidences" that make you go hmmm.
ABC "News" 2006
All 700 boxes!
There are a lot of "coincidences" that make you go hmmm.
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“The U.S. government has misplaced the original recording of the first moon landing
ABC "News" 2006
All 700 boxes!
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Adolph Hitler knew a little bit about the fine art of lying. In Mein Kampf, he wrote that, “If you’re going to tell a lie, make sure it’s a really fricking big lie.”
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 10:48 am
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:35 am to GumboPot
That's a nice theoretical diagram, but there is ZERO evidence of the calculations made for the Apollo missions to hit the Van Allen Belt sweet spots, because ALL of the data and film have been "lost."
After learning of all the "missing documentation" and forgotten technology, I refuse to entertain the notion that we put men on the moon.
After learning of all the "missing documentation" and forgotten technology, I refuse to entertain the notion that we put men on the moon.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:35 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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You have the burden of proof. There's NO WAY to prove something didn't happen only that something did. That's the nature of science.
Science doesn’t “prove” or “disprove” anything. It merely accepts/rejects ideas based on evidence.
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Footage of astronauts on the moon.
“Prove” that there was special effects technology at the time to fake the footage.
Edit to add: if it was fake, wouldn’t the USSR have shouted it down over and over again? What about the other enemies of the USA?
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 10:43 am
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:38 am to Sasquatch Smash
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“Prove” that there was special effects technology at the time to fake the footage.
Ever seen Mary Poppins? You know she can't REALLY fly, right? That movie was made in 1968. It was also filmed in color.
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Science doesn’t “prove” or “disprove” anything. It merely accepts/rejects ideas based on evidence.
WTF do you think "proof" is? It's the evidence that compels the mind to accept an assertion as truth.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 10:41 am
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:45 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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That movie was made in 1968.
LMAO no
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:47 am to Sasquatch Smash
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Edit to add: if it was fake, wouldn’t the USSR have shouted it down over and over again? What about the other enemies of the USA?
How or why would they think it was fake? MOST people in the USA thought it was real. Why wouldn't the Russians?
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:47 am to LookSquirrel
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There are a lot of "coincidences" that make you go hmmm.
Exactly. I challenge anyone to read the series and not have SERIOUS questions about whether or not we put men on the moon.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:51 am to Radio One
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LMAO no
OK. If you don't accept that as proof that we didn't have the technology to prove the video of the moon landing can be faked, then you can't use the video of the moon landing to prove it was real. Especially when the original recordings were "lost".
Without that video all you have as proof of the moon landing is what NASA reported. Oh yeah, and some lasers bounced off mirrors left there by astronauts. Lol. The moon rocks have proven to be petrified wood in at least one case. Original pictures aren't available for examination.
And the famous picture of "Earth Rise" is so incredibly fake it isn't even funny.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:52 am to Gifman
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We didn’t land on the moon.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:56 am to prouddawg
That reaction seems reasonable. Totally reasonable.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:59 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
Yeah ... don't care if anyone did or didn't set foot on the moon but the science makes absolutely no sense unless there is some hidden technology (that was lost ... lol) ...
Popular Mechanics - 20 Facts You Didn't Know About Apollo 11 Mission
Another interesting link with all kinds of calculations to show how "getting to the moon" was possible:
StackOverflow - Fuel Calculation
The challenge I have with this entire thing isn't "could we get to the moon", it's ... how in the hell did they get back? ...
Again, an interesting conspiracy to research and don't care/believe in one direction or the other. But the empirical evidence makes one question most of the narrative ...
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It’s been intensely investigated for decades. The Saturn V rocket that launched Apollo 11 burned through 203,400 gallons of kerosene fuel and another 318,000 gallons of liquid oxygen to lift the spacecraft just 38 miles into the sky.
Popular Mechanics - 20 Facts You Didn't Know About Apollo 11 Mission
Another interesting link with all kinds of calculations to show how "getting to the moon" was possible:
StackOverflow - Fuel Calculation
The challenge I have with this entire thing isn't "could we get to the moon", it's ... how in the hell did they get back? ...
Again, an interesting conspiracy to research and don't care/believe in one direction or the other. But the empirical evidence makes one question most of the narrative ...
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 11:01 am
Posted on 12/20/24 at 11:02 am to GumboPot
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This is the most entertaining conspiracy theory IMO. The number of scientific inconsistencies are hilarious.
Yet you and many others happily lap up all her other BS as if she's some great truth teller.
She should never again be taken seriously as a commentator.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 11:09 am to IvoryBillMatt
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That's a nice theoretical diagram, but there is ZERO evidence of the calculations made for the Apollo missions to hit the Van Allen Belt sweet spots, because ALL of the data and film have been "lost."
I'm just pointing out the "Moon Landing" Van Allen argument.
I was a full on Moon Landing believer but the more information or lack of information around this subject my default Moon Landing stance is wavering.
I guess the difference between me and the Moon Landing true believer is I'm not emotionally attached to the Moon Landing. With a science and engineering background were I have been taught to be open minded and challenged by peers to make me better, I approach all subjects open minded. That is just my natural disposition.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 11:12 am to 632627
And the idea that Musk can be taken seriously about anything related to this when the guy thinks we can colonize Mars (35.8 MILLION miles away) ...
Suggests he's aware of some unknown technology (that may have been used to get to the moon) or he's just talking his book ...
Cause him earnestly talking about getting a manned craft to Mars, in his lifetime, which is 145x further (at its closest distance) from Earth than the moon ...
Math and physics are still undefeated for a reason.
Suggests he's aware of some unknown technology (that may have been used to get to the moon) or he's just talking his book ...
Cause him earnestly talking about getting a manned craft to Mars, in his lifetime, which is 145x further (at its closest distance) from Earth than the moon ...
Math and physics are still undefeated for a reason.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 11:15 am
Posted on 12/20/24 at 11:15 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Gideon Swashbuckler
Settle down Princess
If you can’t get the date for fricking Mary Poppins right then I’m just gonna have to discount all your other arguments mmmkay
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