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re: LIVE Candace Owens vs Andrew Wilson Debate: Over whether Israel Killed Charlie Kirk
Posted on 8/17/26 at 8:47 am to Forzaazzurri88
Posted on 8/17/26 at 8:47 am to Forzaazzurri88
quote:What evidence would be required to prove someone's guilt? Give me an example of anyone's death that wasn't a conspiracy. That the story we were told is true. I want to know your baseline of what counts as credible evidence or confession verses planted evidence and a forced confession.
Oh they admit it well thats that then I forgot you can't be threatened into falsely admitting anything. You could admit to the Kennedy assassination it means nothing
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Posted on 8/17/26 at 9:04 am to Forzaazzurri88
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Whenever there's a murder or any crime generally people are charged with conspiracy because they didn't act alone
Give me an example of anyone's death that the accused admitted it, the physical evidence confirmed it, and you accept that person is indeed guilty. Any murder that has ever occured in history.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 9:19 am to tigerlion
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Until the very end when Andrew knew 0/7 of the charges against Tyler Robinson. He was 75% certain Tyler is guilty but 0% certain of the charges.
Wilson actually said 60-75% sure and open to change based on evidence
Owens said 0% sure and didn't believe any of the current evidence
Also, Owens was facted checked and found inaccurate or unknowing of facts more than Wilson throughout the debate.
That's how it started. Based on that, alone. Who seems retarded?
This post was edited on 8/17/26 at 9:20 am
Posted on 8/17/26 at 9:08 pm to the808bass
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No. It wasn’t. You seem mildly retarded. Good luck.
Aw bless your heart. Resorting to name calling. I can see how you thought Wilson won.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:14 pm to 1897
You’re siding with a person who said it was a tactic to ask for direct evidence.
You’re siding with a person who said on her podcast that Erica Kirk and TPUSA were complicit in Charlie’s death. And refused to repeat it in the debate.
I could go on for half an hour. But you aren’t believing her because of evidence. You’re in a cult.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 11:28 pm to 1897
quote:
If anyone thinks Andrew Wilson won
I don't think either of them won.
I thought Candace looked a lot dumber than Wilson, but I don't think he did great either.
Part of that's not his fault, though, IMO. It was dumb to pay her to sit there and say the idiotic things she said for however long that thing lasted. That part was his fault. But there is such a thing as someone being so delusional about something that a debate with them about it is impossible.
I kept getting frustrated with him because he let her get away with arguing about irrelevant things like whether hearsay was permitted in the pre-trial hearing instead of answering questions about how she got from something like the (fact? assertion? I don't know) that Robinson's DNA on the gun was the most degraded, therefore, he wasn't the shooter nd there had to be a conspiracy that framed him as a patsy.
quote:
Andrew came off as condescending, desperate
I thought that same thing about Candace. Bigly. Add defensive to boot.
quote:
unknowledgeable about the case
Based on?
This post was edited on 8/17/26 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 8/17/26 at 11:33 pm to tigerlion
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Until the very end when Andrew knew 0/7 of the charges against Tyler Robinson. He was 75% certain Tyler is guilty but 0% certain of the charges.
That was another tactic of Owen's for the dimwitted.
Wilson didn't know that the charge was "aggravated murder," instead of just "murder."
What does that have to do with whether it was Tyler Robinson or someone else who shot Charlie Kirk in the neck?
Do you know all the charges that Sirhan Sirhan was convicted of? I don't. But that really doesn't have anything to do with my opinion of whether he shot Robert Kennedy or not.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 5:02 am to 1897
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If anyone thinks Andrew Wilson won or did anything but stooge for TPUSA (he went to a debate training there ) , they’re being delusional. I’ve held the objective personal opinion that there were many weird happenings around the days after and the investigation and the images etc., but I don’t actively watch Candace. Andrew came off as condescending, desperate and unknowledgeable about the case. He went to nail a few talking points and try to get her to make bold claims. Just another horrible PR moves by TPUSA. Funny how when the talent is killed, the void can’t be filled by shells of the conservative movement like Shapiro, Wilson and Alex stein. Oh and Babylon Bee. Yikes.
So you really believe that there were French Foreign Legion assassins the crowd that day? Do you think CKs murder was a global conspiracy between the FBI, CIA, Mossad, Israel, Egypt, France, the Orem Police Dept, Utah Dept of Public health, Utah Valet Ukiv admin, Erika Kirk, TPUSA and several others?
Because if you think Candace “won”, you have to accept that as not only plausible, but highly probable because Candace wasn’t simply confining her argument to “TR didn’t do it.” She was arguing not only did TR not do it but all these other entities are involved.
So when AW asked her if the French Foreign Legion was involved, and COs response was Yes, the debate was fricking OVER.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 6:25 am to idlewatcher
I posted this in the wrong thread
Posted on 8/18/26 at 6:55 am to cajunangelle
I'm posting this in the right thread...lol
I thought this kind of summed up the debate... valid point, a lot of talk, someone is wrong... but it doesn't slow them down.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:10 am to captainFid
Oh yeah... well I see your vid and raise you this vid
Her words speak for themselves. All surveillance video evidence, including him driving in the parking garage. With a DMV License plate citing Tyler Robinson.
Walking up and him laying down taking the death shot of CK. Then dropping off the roof with a building design indent of a ladder, and runs into the woods.
Is all hearsay because batshit Candace says so.
yeah otay...
ETA: And according to Candace TR stopped at chic-fil-a so it disproved his trans furry friend, and the entire timeline he shot CK.
Anyone post a link that ISRAEL AND THE FRENCH FOREIGN LEGION KILLED CK.
Her words speak for themselves. All surveillance video evidence, including him driving in the parking garage. With a DMV License plate citing Tyler Robinson.
Walking up and him laying down taking the death shot of CK. Then dropping off the roof with a building design indent of a ladder, and runs into the woods.
Is all hearsay because batshit Candace says so.
yeah otay... ETA: And according to Candace TR stopped at chic-fil-a so it disproved his trans furry friend, and the entire timeline he shot CK.
Anyone post a link that ISRAEL AND THE FRENCH FOREIGN LEGION KILLED CK.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 7:18 am
Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:22 am to theunknownknight
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:04 am to cajunangelle
lol
Gal Sharpton
Gal Sharpton
Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:55 am to the808bass
Dana is wise. Gal Sharpton is the way to go. She also makes it clear that Candy started as a Gal Sharpton, then grifted far right when Ye was cool.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 11:52 am to CDUBTX
you can't be serious. An unfired .30 caliber bullet is going to measure .308 maybe out of the box. Once it has been fired it will measure closer to.300 the nominal bore size or maybe even smaller. How do you think they match the bullet to the barrel? Its from strike marks that create grooves in the bullet. You probably got that talking point from the woman who just recently discovered thunder was the sound of lightning. You know the one that also threw out the conspiracy of the CIA having something taken from samarians that is thousands of years old that they used to see into the future with and see the murder.Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:17 pm to MikkUGA
You can’t argue with using real knowledge against feelings. And you can't argue with tards. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:21 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:23 am to cajunangelle
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:23 am to theunknownknight
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Candace Owens Accuses Debate Team of Home Intrusion Amid Backlash
Last updated
5 hours ago
The $300,000 PBD Podcast debate on August 14 at Owens' residence pitted her against streamer Andrew Wilson over theories about Charlie Kirk's assassination, including claims involving Tyler Robinson. Owens, who chose her pregnant-friendly home as the venue, later described the team's entry as degenerate and unprofessional on her podcast, claiming they made her feel violated.
Critics pointed out her hospitality upon arrival and noted she insisted on the location, while she defended calling a playroom a 'garage' and accused a camera angle of deviance—claims others saw as respectful. The clash has observers questioning boundaries in public online showdowns.
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This post was edited on 8/19/26 at 8:26 am
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:53 am to Bunk Moreland
11- She calls the preliminary hearing all hearsay
12- She believes the microphone on CK exploded because his shirt moved.
13- She loses any and all credibility: showing her personal feelings that Erika Kirk is not qualified to run TPUSA and said EK should stay home and raise her kids
14- She named Joe Kent in the past as a source: that there were Israel linked jewish people cell phones on campus
15-She has a massive bot audience and mommy sleuth wine mom idiots, to hit up polls she won
16-She is so crazy that she is now claiming her home was evaded by the Wilson team--when she insisted they go to her because she is 7 mos pregnant
17-She rambles about a garage playroom at the debate- and purposeful bad camera angles on her
18- She has claimed they have had to or will move and blames others.
12- She believes the microphone on CK exploded because his shirt moved.
13- She loses any and all credibility: showing her personal feelings that Erika Kirk is not qualified to run TPUSA and said EK should stay home and raise her kids
14- She named Joe Kent in the past as a source: that there were Israel linked jewish people cell phones on campus
15-She has a massive bot audience and mommy sleuth wine mom idiots, to hit up polls she won
16-She is so crazy that she is now claiming her home was evaded by the Wilson team--when she insisted they go to her because she is 7 mos pregnant
17-She rambles about a garage playroom at the debate- and purposeful bad camera angles on her
18- She has claimed they have had to or will move and blames others.
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