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Like clockwork: New Zealand rushing to enact gun restrictions after shooting

Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:34 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:34 am
Ardern said that the “worst act of terrorism on our shores” had exposed a range of weaknesses in New Zealand’s gun laws.

Speaking after her weekly Cabinet meeting Monday evening local time, Ardern told reporters that ministers had agreed “in principle” to reform gun laws.

“Within 10 days of this horrific act of terrorism we will have announced reforms which will, I believe, make our community safer,” she said.

While acknowledging that “for a short period” planned reforms might create uncertainty for some gun owners, Ardern said: “I strongly believe that the vast majority of gun owners in New Zealand will agree with the sentiment that change needs to occur.”

Earlier Monday, popular New Zealand e-commerce website TradeMe ended the sale of semiautomatic guns on its online marketplace.

“We have listened to public sentiment following Friday’s terrorist attack in Christchurch and decided to remove all semi-automatic firearms sales and parts associated,” TradeMe wrote in a statement.

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Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
16935 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:35 am to
It’s unreal
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81701 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:37 am to
Women are so dumb
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48917 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:38 am to
Almost like......
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:38 am to
New Zealand will be used as an example by anti gun people in our country.
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9494 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:42 am to
Typical Hysterical reaction from a woman
Posted by SpringBokCock
Columbia, SC
Member since Oct 2003
3157 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:49 am to
Well . . . Australia and the UK did the same thing after mass shootings. And it worked for them.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19519 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:00 am to

A horse got out of the barn. Better hurry up and shut the door.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40133 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:04 am to
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Well . . . Australia and the UK did the same thing after mass shootings. And it worked for them.



Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:05 am to
If that government read the shooters manifesto he emailed to them. Instead of ignoring it and censoring it. they would realize they are doing exactly what he wanted them to do. So take the guns, and let him win some more. A brilliant idea.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 7:06 am
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12375 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:06 am to
Let’s make people more vulnerable to creeps like the perpetrator by taking away a means to defend themselves completely!
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14031 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:09 am to
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Well . . . Australia and the UK did the same thing after mass shootings. And it worked for them.


What is your definition of "it worked"?
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19519 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:09 am to
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Australia and the UK did the same thing after mass shootings. And it worked for them.


Australia has had mass shootings since. UK is going through waves of knife attacks and is talking knife control.

It's like a person with murderous intent is not slowed down by laws. Weird.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 7:24 am
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12375 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:11 am to
quote:

Well . . . Australia and the UK did the same thing after mass shootings. And it worked for them.


Oh yeah. Haven’t seen any other violent attacks in the UK or record high knife crime since.

Australia is smaller than Texas. It can surely be compared with a country that holds 94% larger of a population with more diversity.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37774 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:18 am to
I had assumed NZ virtually had no guns like basically everywhere else. What exactly were their gun laws to begin with?
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12375 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:21 am to
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I had assumed NZ virtually had no guns like basically everywhere else. What exactly were their gun laws to begin with?



I heard this second-handidly off of the radio, so excuse me if I got anything wrong. To my understanding, the laws are very stringent. You have to get all kinds of licenses to own a shotgun or rifle. You have to take hours of classes, with tests given that you have to score 90% and above on to pass. The govt. has to come check where you’re keeping it stored in your home to see if it’s acceptable before they pass your licensing.

Handguns are illegal to have in your home. You can only operate one if you’re part of a shooting club that competes competitively, where you’re required to log an amount of hours shooting annually. The gun must remain locked up at the clubs’ location when not shooting.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 7:34 am
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37774 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:23 am to
Thanks

Seems very reasonable for a non US country (reasonable as in no need to make it even more restrictive).
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:26 am to
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Very stringent. You have to get all kinds of licenses to own a shotgun or rifle. You have to take hours of classes, with tests given that you have to score 90% and above on to pass. The govt. has to come check where you’re keeping it stored in your home to see if it’s acceptable before they pass your licensing.


Other than the storage inspection and provided the licenses are valid for 5+ years (preferably lifetime) sounds pretty solid.

Did the shooter get his weapons in NZ?
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 7:28 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89528 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:34 am to
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And it worked for them.


And the UK is hard at work banning knives right now.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19519 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:34 am to
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Did the shooter get his weapons in NZ?


Being on an island has to limit the possibilities.
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