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Libertarians of the board: what is your opinion of job corps?

Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:40 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69308 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:40 pm
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Job Corps is a program administered by the United States Department of Labor that offers free-of-charge education and vocational training to young men and women ages 16 to 24


On the one hand, it is a large govt run and administered vocational training program

On the other hand, it could potentially lead to reductions in welfare spending and prison costs in the future

Although various investigations have found it to be poorly run and attracting bad apples. It’s mostly screw-ups who attend job corps camps. Sometimes they are tough to fix.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:42 pm to
This could easily be handled by large industrial/construction outfits looking for skilled labor
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69308 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:44 pm to
I’m not totally familiar with the corps, but I think companies are involved
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:45 pm to
If private industries are helping subsidize these programs with the condition of offering jobs as these kids graduate then I don't mind
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

administered by the United States Department of Labor



Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140554 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:46 pm to
Juicy fairy better stay the hell outta this thread.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260747 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:51 pm to
I've known quite a few kids who went through job corps, and most were at risk kids who ended up in jail or on the dole.

It seems the program could be integrated into traditional employment/apprenticeships.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47613 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Job Corps is a program administered by the United States Department of Labor


I would be better with the government funding it instead of administering it.

The idea behind the program is sound and it would probably have a greater positive impact on society if it was administered by anyone other than the US Government.



Posted by swamie
Where opportunity meets hard work
Member since Jan 2007
27253 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:03 pm to
All you need to know

A federal program dedicated to getting people jobs couldn’t prove it did its own job

quote:


The program annually spent $1.7 billion between 2010 and 2016, including $50 million to contractors tasked with getting program graduates new jobs. The IG found “insufficient evidence demonstrating they had provided the services required by their contracts,” the report said.

Job Corps couldn’t prove they helped 94 percent get jobs.




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Another participant “worked as a cashier at a retail store before attending Job Corps in 2011, spent 310 days in bricklaying training, and then returned to work at the same retail store as a stock clerk after graduating,” the report said. “Job Corps also reported this as a successful graduation and placement.”



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“The earnings of participants five years after initial placement were slightly less than the poverty threshold for individuals under the age of 65, which was $12,486,” the report said.

A previous IG audit found that Job Corps “placed participants in positions unrelated to their training, placed participants in positions that required little or no training, and in general overstated the success of its job placements,” Tuesday’s report said.

Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5854 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:16 pm to
Have the govt fund it and ran through a non profit to administer the project.
Posted by superwolf
Member since Dec 2006
820 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:36 pm to
Then why do we spend all that wasted money on government education. I thought schools were supposed to get you job ready. The problem is that schools do little to prepare people for job opportunities.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51827 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

Libertarians

quote:

it is a large govt run and administered vocational training program



Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47613 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

I thought schools were supposed to get you job ready.


That used to be the case, now they just prepare you to pass the next standardized test.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112495 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:32 pm to
Job corp, peace corp, VISTA, etc should all be destroyed. Govt make work at taxpayer expense.
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