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re: Liberal question - fake news or na
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:33 am to Prettyboy Floyd
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:33 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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I need liberals to be consistent.
I mean seriously you have got to be kidding me. There is no way you are smart enough to use the internet yet not see the issue with rejecting every nyt article until something you agree with is in it.
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:33 am to Lsuchs
quote:
There is hypocrisy in defending the NYT now
Then why are you being a hypocrite?
quote:
there is hypocrisy on the left if you still deny there weren't wire taps.
Are you 12?
There is hypocrisy on the left AND right whether or not I deny the wiretaps.
Personally, I wait for evidence to come out before drawing any conclusions about any accusations of wiretapping.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:35 am to olddawg26
Nope, I think they are fake news propaganda peddling scum that was caught in wikileaks assisting a presidential campaign and allowing candidates to assist in narrating their own articles. My position is well defined. Sorry old man but I have no issues calling them fake news.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:37 am to olddawg26
Do you at least admit the Russian narrative is likely way overblown? And has just as good a chance of being fabricated as Obama directly ordering the wiretapping of trump tower? Either could still technically be true, or both could be false obviously.
I personally think it's a lot more likely trump tower was wire tapped and it would in some way be linked to obama. Like I'm sure many here on the left believe trump is in bed with Russia. But I won't speak in absolutes until we know more.
I personally think it's a lot more likely trump tower was wire tapped and it would in some way be linked to obama. Like I'm sure many here on the left believe trump is in bed with Russia. But I won't speak in absolutes until we know more.
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 9:47 am
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:37 am to Lsuchs
quote:
I don't mean you specifically as I'm not familiar with your post history. I was more discussing the idea that right leaning posters on this site discussed NYT as fake news but will now use this NYT article in their argument.
This really just shows that they'll report whatever fits the narrative they're pushing at the time.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:37 am to mmcgrath
quote:Manafort has lived in Trump Tower since 2006
Please point out where it says that Trump Tower was wiretapped by Obama.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:38 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
There is hypocrisy on the left AND right
Was that not the entire point of my original post? Everyone is a hypocrite
quote:
Then why are you being a hypocrite?
I'm not defending or attacking the NYT. The OP is citing a NYT article that supports my opinion but I admit that can be hypocritical since I've also believed certain NYT articles to be "fake news."
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Personally, I wait for evidence to come out before drawing any conclusions about any accusations of wiretapping.
Same here. Do you think people should wait for evidence before believing trump colluded with the Russians as well?
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 9:45 am
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:39 am to imjustafatkid
quote:
This really just shows that they'll report whatever fits the narrative they're pushing at the time.
Like the NYT
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:39 am to Prettyboy Floyd
Looks like the wiretapping data NYT, fox news, blogs, and this board talked about during the Flynn case.... Wiretapping data from Russian foreign officials.
Did you forget
Did you forget
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 9:40 am
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:41 am to Lsuchs
I expect a higher burden of proof when the POTUS claims something as fact than I do from journalists.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:41 am to jeff5891
Jeff, I sometimes wonder if you fell out of a moving train at a high rate of speed or if you had some type of traumatic brain injury as a child.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:45 am to mmcgrath
quote:Please point out where the reporter mentions he's publishing classified intel which someone broke the law in releasing to the reporter.
Please point out where it says that Trump Tower was wiretapped by Obama.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:46 am to Prettyboy Floyd
Hey when you can't refute what someone is saying just attack the individual.
Not fallacy at all all I right?
Not fallacy at all all I right?
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 9:47 am
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:49 am to HubbaBubba
quote:DEFLECT!!!quote:
Please point out where it says that Trump Tower was wiretapped by Obama.
Please point out where the reporter mentions he's publishing classified intel which someone broke the law in releasing to the reporter.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:49 am to PDXDawg
PDX, I agree,
I'm all about burden of proof. That's why I list the Russian stuff as a conspiracy theory. If only our fake news required actual proof to peddle propaganda.
I'm all about burden of proof. That's why I list the Russian stuff as a conspiracy theory. If only our fake news required actual proof to peddle propaganda.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:54 am to jeff5891
Jeff, the article doesn't say a damn thing about tapping Russian officials, it clearly states Trump aides.
Now, back to the traumatic brain injury? What happened?
Now, back to the traumatic brain injury? What happened?
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:55 am to mmcgrath
quote:Is that a warning? It sure isn't an answer.
DEFLECT!!!
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:59 am to Prettyboy Floyd
Wiretapping trump tower and all communications in/out <> wiretapping Russian officials and whomever they speak with (which apparently included trump tower if you believe NYT sources)
Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:00 am to Lsuchs
quote:
Do you at least admit
This already seems patronizing considering I've been pretty rational thus far. Yes I think the Russian shite is way overblown but probably some fire with that smoke. Same with the wire tapping thing. I don't think trump is a brilliant man, but he's not dumb enough to just blurt out something like that.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:00 am to mmcgrath
quote:
Please point out where it says that Trump Tower was wiretapped by Obama.
As Ken Dilanian notes:
quote:
Some having a hard time with this: FBI reviewing intercepts of Russians talking to Americans DOES NOT EQUAL a wiretap in Trump Tower.
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