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Levin has been a really interesting show this evening, conservative has been redefined.

Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:45 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46102 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:45 pm
Mark took a call from some dude in NY and he told Mark he was a conservative but he wanted Mark’s opinion. The caller proceeds to tell Mark he’s pro choice, pro LGBT marriage and Mark cuts him off and says you’re not truly conservative but you may be fiscally conservative but Mark said he didn’t have time to get into a deep discussion because he was up against a hard break.

Mark goes to break and now I’m thinking....the country has gone so far left the folks who would have been center left Democrats pre Trump are now identifying as conservatives.

So I guess today you’re a conservative if you don’t want to dismantle the constitution and destroy the country. Lol!
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11184 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:47 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 9:41 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46102 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:49 pm to
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The DNC has successfully moved the overton window

Trump is basically a Clinton era blue dog democrat.

And they treat him like hes Hitler in 1940.



Yes!
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
13181 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:49 pm to
Too bad Mark didn't have time to say "get off the phone you dummy!"
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34670 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:50 pm to
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So I guess today you’re a conservative if you don’t want to dismantle the constitution and destroy the country


Some clown in another thread said he was a 'right-leaning independent', then said he voted for Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and Obama twice.

ETA. It was Aubie101
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46102 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:51 pm to
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vening, conservative has been redefined. by L1C4
Too bad Mark didn't have time to say "get off the phone you dummy!"


Hard break lol!
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:52 pm to
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Trump is basically a Clinton era blue dog democrat.




Trump would have run as a Democrat had HRC not been running.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:53 pm to
Conservatism is just liberalism with a ten to twenty year buffer
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
6718 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

The caller proceeds to tell Mark he’s pro choice, pro LGBT marriage and Mark cuts him off and says you’re not truly conservative


I’m the same as this guy. I now consider myself conservative too and I always considered myself an independent until the Obama years began. My wife actually laughed when she found out I’m a registered independent. I think the difference is that today’s political climate is so ostracized that you have to pick a side. Team Trump for me.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:03 pm to
My wife points out that “trump was a democrat before!”

And I point out, “yes. He was. Then the democrats moved so far left that he’s right wing now.”
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7318 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:06 pm to
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So I guess today you’re a conservative if you don’t want to dismantle the constitution and destroy the country. Lol!


Pretty much. That seems to be where the current battle lines have been drawn.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38783 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

Mark goes to break and now I’m thinking....the country has gone so far left the folks who would have been center left Democrats pre Trump are now identifying as conservatives


Social issues shouldn't define your conservatism imho
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:10 pm to
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Conservatism is just liberalism with a ten to twenty year buffer


Conservatism needs to be set aside for rightwing patriot nationalism.

Cannot fight leftist insanity with spineless unprincipled "moderates" and neocon war-profiteer shitbags.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18845 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:12 pm to
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I guess today you’re a conservative if you don’t want to dismantle the constitution and destroy the country.
That means they have to vote for the ONLY conservative candidate, the orange man.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3905 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

Trump would have run as a Democrat had HRC not been running.


This fascinates me.

Had Trump run as the Dem nominee against Jeb!, Cruz, Rubio, etc., is he still elected President?

I think there's no way he gets the Dem nomination in 2016 anyway, but it's an interesting what-if scenario.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27481 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:28 pm to
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My wife points out that “trump was a democrat before!”
Trump was a Republican, then switched to Democrat when Bush Jr. was President, then switched back. He was never a life long Democrat. He just hates Bush.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8651 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:41 pm to
That guy is almost as left as Nikita Khrushchev
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89923 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:44 pm to
You can be a conservative and pro LGBT. I am.
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