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Levin: Cohen plea means nothing

Posted on 8/21/18 at 8:41 pm
Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
2803 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 8:41 pm
Since payments to the whores weren't out of campaign funds, they're not illegal. Trying to influence election means nothing int he eyes of the law.

eta: Said on Hannity
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 8:42 pm
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21898 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 8:42 pm to
Levin forgot about in-kind contributions...
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

Levin


quote:

means nothing
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 8:46 pm to
Even then the sum of these contributions would literally cause a small arse fine
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 8:48 pm to
That's wrong
Posted by someoneBEE
Member since Aug 2016
698 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 8:50 pm to
Former Commissioner, Vice Chairman and Chairman of the Federal Election Commission (2000 and 2005) Professor Bradley Smith
https://www.wsj.com/articles/stormy-weather-for-campaign-finance-laws-1523398987
quote:

Shortly before the 2016 election, one of President Trump’s lawyers, Michael Cohen, arranged a $130,000 payment to the porn star in return for silence about a 2006 affair she claimed to have had with Mr. Trump. (Both the president and Mr. Cohen have denied the affair; Mr. Trump has said he did not know of the payment to Ms. Daniels until this February.)

Not satisfied with an old-fashioned sex scandal—perhaps because the president seems impervious to that—some want to turn this into a violation of campaign-finance law. Trevor Potter, a former member of the Federal Election Commission told “60 Minutes” the payment was “a $130,000 in-kind contribution by Cohen to the Trump campaign, which is about $126,500 above what he’s allowed to give.” The FBI raided Mr. Cohen’s office, home and hotel room Monday. They reportedly seized records related to the payment and are investigating possible violations of campaign-finance laws.

But let’s remember a basic principle of such laws: Not everything that might benefit a candidate is a campaign expense.

Campaign-finance law aims to prevent corruption. For this reason, the FEC has a longstanding ban on “personal use” of campaign funds. Such use would give campaign contributions a material value beyond helping to elect the candidate—the essence of a bribe.

FEC regulations explain that the campaign cannot pay expenses that would exist “irrespective” of the campaign, even if it might help win election. At the same time, obligations that would not exist “but for” the campaign must be paid from campaign funds.

If paying hush money is a campaign expense, a candidate would be required to make that payment with campaign funds. How ironic, given that using campaign funds as hush money was one of the articles of impeachment in the Watergate scandal, which gave rise to modern campaign-finance law.


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Levin forgot about in-kind contributions...


He did not.
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 9:05 pm
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
8686 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 8:50 pm to
Tru but was this payoff for actions before Trump even thought about running for Pres?
Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
2803 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 8:51 pm to
Even if it is, who cares. He paid them out of his own pocket. If that violates campaign finance laws, then the laws are flawed.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112675 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 8:51 pm to
What's your legal background?
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

What's your legal background?


He watched perry mason once
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

Levin forgot about in-kind contributions...


no
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36695 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 8:57 pm to
That’s a great find.

That pretty much shows that Cohen’s remarks hold no water legally.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34114 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

What's your legal background?



He took Jeffrey Toobin's correspondence course
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 9:01 pm to
Just subpoena the candy corn and get this over.






Oh yea! Let Mueller give Cohen immmnity the day before they subpoena the President.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140562 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 9:02 pm to
He sucked 3 dicks this weekend
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 9:02 pm to


You don't plead guilty to a crime unless you are worried they are going to hang you out to dry for a worse crime.

But by all means...nothing to see here right?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 9:02 pm to
Melt!!
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76678 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

Just subpoena the candy corn and get this over.


So it will be deemed unconstitutional? Good idea.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112675 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 9:04 pm to
Weak.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112675 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 9:04 pm to
Are you still with her?
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