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re: Letter from FDA to physicians on acetaminophen use

Posted on 9/25/25 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57164 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 4:49 pm to
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You know what, fair enough. I will add you to my running list if posters who are worth seriously engaging with and limit the snark


Your lack of self-awareness is staggering.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57164 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 4:50 pm to
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When a third of them don’t, they do not.


Of course they do. 2/3ds is a vast majority. Enough to point to correlation. Perhaps you’re confusing correlation with causation?

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Lesson apparently not learned.


Poor instructor.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20581 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 4:53 pm to
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quote:When a third of them don’t, they do not. Of course they do. 2/3ds is a vast majority.
In a data analysis 1/3 is a massive error, and your majority was actually 59%, the rest were inconclusive.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
15023 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 4:55 pm to
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In a data analysis 1/3 is a massive error, and your majority was actually 59%, the rest were inconclusive.


Jumping back in... since can't be ethically tested for causation, and 60% of observational studies are inconclusive- and since inconclusive is basically a maybe yes/maybe no kind of thing.... isn't prudence warranted?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
11467 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 4:57 pm to
You again? I thought you learned from the last time. What can I help you with, Bonds?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57164 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 4:57 pm to
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In a data analysis 1/3 is a massive error, and your majority was actually 59%, the rest were inconclusive.


59% found a correlation. 41% were inconclusive. That’s enough for a correlation. Run the T-test.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57164 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 4:58 pm to
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You again? I thought you learned from the last time.


I was playing chess with a pigeon.

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What can I help you with, Bonds?


Not a thing.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
11467 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:00 pm to
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Not a thing.

Apparently statistics.
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59% found a correlation. 41% were inconclusive. That’s enough for a correlation. Run the T-test.

Sheesh….
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135710 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:03 pm to
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No one here needs you to "teach" them anything.
I'd guess that depends on "needs."

If truth or facts are not a "need" then you may be right.

But TBH, OMG consistently posts high end, politically neutral, medical advice, and is a medical expert.

He could certainly educate posters here in that arena.
From what I've seen (and know), folks here would be wise to strongly consider what he has to offer, at least in terms of medicine.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57164 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:03 pm to
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Apparently statistics.


you have an MD. Not a PhD. Stick to the knee bone is connected to the leg bone. Doc.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78301 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:05 pm to
All of the studies seem to be treating umbilical cord blood.

i haven’t gotten too into the weeds but do they explain if there is a cumulative effect of tylenol on the blood concentration or if it’s a timing thing?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57164 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:05 pm to
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But TBH, OMG consistently posts high end, politically neutral, medical advice, and is a medical expert.


I respect you immensely NC. If you say OMG is a doc I’ll believe you. It scares me a bit. But I’ll believe you. I’m the black sheep lawyer in a family full of doctors. It disappoints me someone of his intellect (outside of medicine) seems so low.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
11467 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:05 pm to
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you have an MD. Not a PhD. Stick to the knee bone is connected to the leg bone. Doc.

I’m just going to let that statement slide since I’m not quite in the mood today. But man, that statistical oversimplification almost made me blush tbh.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20581 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:05 pm to
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quote:In a data analysis 1/3 is a massive error, and your majority was actually 59%, the rest were inconclusive. Jumping back in... since can't be ethically tested for causation, and 60% of observational studies are inconclusive- and since inconclusive is basically a maybe yes/maybe no kind of thing.... isn't prudence warranted?
Which is why I said originally it should have been a release by the FDA advising not to be used during pregnancy. There is suggestive evidence which would be justified to do so.

Given there is no clear correlation the president getting involved could only be a negative given the polarized response from sycophants who believe he can do no wrong and the TDS idiots who would stop drinking water if Trump said it was good.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
11467 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:06 pm to
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NC_Tigah

This is why this man is #1 on my list

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57164 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:07 pm to
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I’m just going to let that statement slide


You have just the one doctorate, right? It’s a good one…but it’s the only one…right?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135710 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:07 pm to
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Stick to the knee bone is connected to the leg bone. Doc.
Ok.
I laughed. (I suspect OMG did as well).

Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
15023 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:09 pm to
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Given there is no clear correlation the president getting involved could only be a negative given the polarized response from sycophants who believe he can do no wrong and the TDS idiots who would stop drinking water if Trump said it was good.


Online, yes... in reality, hopefully, women will be asking their doctors and receiving good guidance on it.

Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
11467 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:09 pm to
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I respect you immensely NC. If you say OMG is a doc I’ll believe you. It scares me a bit. But I’ll believe you. I’m the black sheep lawyer in a family full of doctors. It disappoints me someone of his intellect (outside of medicine) seems so low.

Bonds, as much as we go back and forth I do consider you a reasonable poster, albeit the competition here is rather unimpressive

You know better to think how everyone posts here is a reflection of how they work, take care of their family, represent clients in your case, take care of patients in mine. Sometimes it’s just about having a little fun!
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57164 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:09 pm to
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Ok. I laughed.

That’s what I tell my brothers and dad every time they call me a prick for being a lawyer. Amazing how much they call me when they need legal advice, though. fricking doctors.
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