re: Let’s talk about the price of drugs.

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Who pays the tariffs that other countries impose on American goods coming into their countries?

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The people that buy those particular goods, IF they choose to buy the goods. If you buy "different" versions of the goods, you don't pay the tariff. So far NOTHING that I've bought seems to have excessively increase in price. Am thinking of buying a Prucha Banjo from the Czech Republic. Tariff is 15% and I'm willing to pay that, could purchase something made in the USA and not pay that 15%. My choice.

There isn’t an artificial scarcity of need when it comes to treating advanced disease states, that’s in fact an actual objective need.

The treatments required to extend life have to be tested and reviewed for safety and efficacy. The average cost to do so for even a pharmaceutical product averages over $1B and many if not most drugs fail to reach market.

There isn’t any meaningful drug development done overseas because those nations have implicitly decided they would rather let patients die than pass on that cost to their citizens.

Given that most of those nations now believe the world is overpopulated to begin with there is no reason to expect that to change.

So we are left to decide what our threshold is for innovation vs cost vs mortality reduction.

Americans are too stubborn to adopt proper eating and exercise so we the collectively have to decide what level of drug and treatment intervention we as a society are willing to underwrite via public spending when fat uncle Larry picks up diabetes at age 35 and stands to cost the health system millions over the next x number of years where the x is dependent variable tied to a spend input because he can’t afford to pay it himself.

But all future pipelines for innovation will either be paid by domestic consumers via patents and high drug prices or it won’t take place at all absent major changes via technology and regulatory oversight and that’s a cold hard fact from someone who spent a long time intimately involved with that industry.

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How very liberal/progressive of you

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Here is your problem, youre simply ignorant. Liberal and Progressive are the polar opposites on the authoritarian scale.

MAGA and Progressive are close and getting closer by the day. Progressives want socialism.

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There isn’t an artificial scarcity of need when it comes to treating advanced disease states,

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The entire system is created around scarcity, which is the prescription and regulatory policy.

tell pain victims the govt isnt creating scarcity.

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youre simply ignorant

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Of course I am, I disagree with a pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant, smug, know-it-all lib inflicted with TDS....

So nobody ever helped you understand logic ?

My mom has pulmonary fibrosis and when she was diagnosed she was given 50/50 odds of surviving another 4 years.

A year later, the doctor said there's a new drug that's been approved that can help slow down the progression in some people. It's got a monthly cost of over $18k, but is actually covered by insurance and she pays about $40 a month.

That was 8 years ago, so it has prolonged her life by 5 additional years, so far. But if it hadn't been covered by insurance, she'd have expended her entire life savings on it within 3 years of starting to use it.

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Do you understand how the real world works? You apparently dont.

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They screamed the same thing in April about a "couple months". Couple months have passed and we're good. Now you're screaming "couple months" again.

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You know that American made car you drive? Most likely it has 50% imported components.

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Yep and if those parts are manufactured here, there is no tariff...

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That American made scope you want: Most likely has glass from China or the Philippines.

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I didn't mention a scope. I mentioned a Prucha banjo. Specifically a Prucha Spirit model in mahogany,11" radiused fretboard, 24 frets, Abalone inlay, Concentric rings on the back, Top Tension, Solid resonator, Sand blasted parts (matte finish) for 5205 Eruo's.

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The electronics youre using? Probably all from China.

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Ok. If a small financial sacrifice by me will help America in the future, I good with it. Heck, I raised my hand and was willing to die for my country. Paying a little more is nothing.

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Consumer prices have been rising significantly, with the Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) increasing by 2.9 percent for the 12 months ending August

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Much of that increase occurred before the tariffs were in place....

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Much of that increased occurred before the tariffs were in place....

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Except its been rising the past three months.