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re: Lets have a war
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:14 am to thatthang
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:14 am to thatthang
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Yeah- he blamed years of legitimate gripes over Russian misbehavior on the United States.
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“Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity and now, the Rigged Witch Hunt!”
IMHO he did not blame gripes or discount Russian behavior. IMHO, What he said/implied is that the way we (USA) have approached Russia in the past 40 years was wrong which has lead us to this point and he wants to take a different approach. Hopefully this new approach will work but if it doesn't I'm hopeful that he will change course and take a different approach. And if you don't think the SC and all the other attacks on his legitimacy as President aren't playing right into Russia's hand you are a bigger fool than you suppose him to be.
I was a kid when Reagan got them to tear that wall down. Then we started giving them money in the form of AID. As a kid I did not understand why we were giving money to our enemy and I still don't. But 30 years later why are they still our enemy? Seems we should have had better diplomatic relations and brought them into the fold. If they have always been and will continue to be our enemy for the foreseeable future why did the last President mock his opponent in 2012 about Russia and the 1980's needing their foreign policy back. I think Russia will always be an opponent on the World stage because the two biggest kids on the block are going to butt heads but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to find some common ground.
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:17 am to Pecker
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There are maybe 15 people on this board who are physically capable and willing to actually engage in war
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:17 am to Zahrim
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Lets have a war
Cool. Let's do it. However, Toddy, Crusier, and asrob must go down to the local Army recruitment office and enlist (Marines are fine too, as long as it's a forward infantry unit).
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:19 am to AUstar
Toddy could be equipment for an 0341 with enough dilation.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:24 am to HempHead
quote:Talk is cheap. And American life is good. The vocal minorities on both sides don’t represent American life or sensibilities.
Things would have to get exponentially worse for people to do more than talk about killing other Americans on the internet.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:28 am to Zahrim
I don't want a war.
I just didn't expect Trump to act like a total chump after all the tough talk with NATO
I just didn't expect Trump to act like a total chump after all the tough talk with NATO
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:29 am to Pecker
That was my emoticon attempt at a Bellamy salute, mostly in jest. I have no desire to kill any other human being (communists excepted because they aren't humans), but I would and will do what is required if and when the time comes.
Absolutely. In the long-term, I really just don't see how things don't get much, much worse. Trump, though I like him, isn't much more than a temporary deceleration on a train whose momentum towards a cliff was enacted long ago.
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Things would have to get exponentially worse for people to do more than talk about killing other Americans on the internet.
Absolutely. In the long-term, I really just don't see how things don't get much, much worse. Trump, though I like him, isn't much more than a temporary deceleration on a train whose momentum towards a cliff was enacted long ago.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:36 am to Pecker
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Things would have to get exponentially worse for people to do more than talk about killing other Americans on the internet.
I understood the comment to be go to war with Russia not other Americans.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:37 am to HempHead
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Absolutely. In the long-term, I really just don't see how things don't get much, much worse. Trump, though I like him, isn't much more than a temporary deceleration on a train whose momentum towards a cliff was enacted long ago.
I agree to an extent but I think the Constitution is the bulwark against decline. Textualist SC justices, not presidents will ensure that things don’t get much, much worse.
I do worry about the Right/Left pendulum swings but generally speaking I’m more concerned with technology and the Constitution than I am with sky screamers.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:39 am to Pecker
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I do worry about the Right/Left pendulum swings but generally speaking I’m more concerned with technology and the Constitution than I am with sky screamers.
My primary concern - and this relates to the 'things get much much worse' line of thinking - is the long term stability and viability of our financial system.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:43 am to HempHead
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My primary concern - and this relates to the 'things get much much worse' line of thinking - is the long term stability and viability of our financial system.
That’s fair. In that sense there’s no indication that either the Right or Left is interested in addressing those concerns, Trump included.
Rand Paul would make a great president, and would be a viable candidate if he weren’t the size of a 5th grader.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:45 am to Zahrim
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that seems to be what the left wants....
nah just for Trump to do his goddamn job, America first my arse.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:48 am to Pecker
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Rand Paul would make a great president, and would be a viable candidate if he weren’t the size of a 5th grader.
I don't think it's his size that works against him. It's the fact that he talks to people as if they should know things rather than explaining it to them. Unfortunately, even if he explained things in a clear and concise manner, they probably wouldn't follow along.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:02 am to HempHead
You can blame Rand's 2016 failure on other people, but the fact is it is the job of the candidate to relay his message in a way voters understand. There are certainly ways to "dumb down" libertarian ideas so the average joe can understand why the country should give such policies a shot.
Rand's 2016 campaign was bland, it was not compelling. He didn't do a good job of making himself unique and drawing attention to himself.
I am hoping he runs again, but he needs to learn the "rules" of primary elections. It's surprising too because his dad was pretty good in the primaries.
Rand's 2016 campaign was bland, it was not compelling. He didn't do a good job of making himself unique and drawing attention to himself.
I am hoping he runs again, but he needs to learn the "rules" of primary elections. It's surprising too because his dad was pretty good in the primaries.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:07 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
There is no marketable strategy for libertarianism in terms of electoral politics.
Rand only participated in the Iowa caucus. I well and truly believe that if Trump wasn't Trump, he would have garnered significantly more anti-establishment votes, though he probably wouldn't have won the overall primary. He saw that Trump was just going to be better at appealing to folks who were fed up than he was.
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It's surprising too because his dad was pretty good in the primaries
Rand only participated in the Iowa caucus. I well and truly believe that if Trump wasn't Trump, he would have garnered significantly more anti-establishment votes, though he probably wouldn't have won the overall primary. He saw that Trump was just going to be better at appealing to folks who were fed up than he was.
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:36 am to ILeaveAtHalftime
Russia and Europe have conflicting interests, and we have adopted Europe as some kind of adult baby. So we just take on their interests as our own.
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