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re: Let's end a talking Point: Just WHO was on the CFIUS that approved uranium ONE
Posted on 10/31/17 at 4:58 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 10/31/17 at 4:58 pm to boosiebadazz
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Ah, attack the messenger, not the message.
Who the messenger is and what their motives are greatly determine the validity of the message. Right?!
Let's look at the message.
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I focus exclusively on the transfer and the U.S. government's approval of it. I am not, in this post, considering the evidence—such as it is—of donations to the Clinton Foundation.
Why not???
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My reasoning is simple: if there is no "quo" to be given, the question of a "quid" is moot.
Ah there is no QUO!. Let's read on.
Follows with 7 paragraphs of the process and history of CFIUS. Yada yada yada.
Finally!
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Uranium One and Rosatom
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Uranium One is a uranium mining and processing compay headquartered in Toronto. ... The operations in the United States (in Wyoming) mine a volume of uranium that is roughly 20% of the annual American production. ... In 2010 a Russian company, ARMZ Uranium Holding, purchased a 51% interest in Uranium One. ARMZ was, at the time, a subsidiary of Rosatom—the Russian State Atomic Energy Corporation (a non-profit appendage of the government). It is fair, then, to say that the 2010 transaction involved the purchase of a controlling interest in Uranium One by the Russian government. ... Since that time, ARMZ has been extinguished in corporate reorganization and Rosatom purchased the remaining 49% of Uranium One, so today Rosatom owns the entire company directly.
OK so the Russian government (Putin) now owns 100% of 20% of American uranium production plus the world wide uranium production of the former Uranium One Corp.
Got it! Let's read on.
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By all reports, there was little controversy over the transaction (which occurred during President Obama's "reset" with Russia). Still, it is fair to say that the degree of scrutiny of this transaction seems less than the 2009 proposed purchase of a gold mine by Chinese interests—which was ultimately withdrawn in light of CFIUS objections.
WHAT!!! little controversy despite less scrutiny over Chinese purchasing gold production by Obama in 2009!?????? One metal, gold, can be made into jewelry. The other metal, uranium, can be made into thermonuclear warheads! Jewelry bad, but thermonuclear warheads good!!!
But wait! It goes on!
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It is unlikely that Secretary Clinton personally participated in the transaction. Her assistant secretary says she did not intervene, and given the nature of the transaction and the apparent lack of controversy, that is a plausible scenario. I can see no reason to doubt his account.
So we have no QUO!!? because Hillary's flunky assistant secretary said so!!!
But it gets worse!
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It is, however, true, that the mining rights to 20% of American uranium are now held by a Russian state agency. That is troubling (and had it been me, I would have tried to generate opposition to the sale). It isn't a "give away," but it is the case that Rusatom has de jure and de facto legal rights that can be exercised to limit production if it wishes to do so.
You should have picked a better author and article!
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:12 pm to Gaspergou202
I respect the time you took to copy and paste all that for the quotes and to provide your commentary, but it's still an incredibly weak indictment, IMO.
Reasonable minds can certainly disagree, but nothing you've offered in response is really probative at all.
Reasonable minds can certainly disagree, but nothing you've offered in response is really probative at all.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:13 pm to culsutiger
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Asked about that, the commission confirmed that Uranium One has, in fact, shipped yellowcake to Canada even though it does not have an export license. Instead, the transport company doing the shipping, RSB Logistic Services, has the license. A commission spokesman said that “to the best of our knowledge” most of the uranium sent to Canada for processing was returned for use in the United States. A Uranium One spokeswoman, Donna Wichers, said 25 percent had gone to Western Europe and Japan.
I mean damn dude. It should be pretty obvious that I was baiting you into making the claim that it was never exported just so that I could expose your ignorance here.
The RSB Logistical Services export license is a restricted license.
The RSB Logistical Services export license only allows for uranium to be sent to Canada for processing and then returned to the U.S. Any uranium send to any other party not on the export license requires prior U.S. approval.
This is from the export license that RSB Logistic Services has, describing the transfer of uranium to Canada for processing.:
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The licensee is authorized to export a cumulative total of 12,000,000.0 kilograms natural uranium in the form of uranium ore concentrate (U30a). The uranium authorized for export is to be returned to the United States. If it is to be transferred to another (non-U.S.) ultimate consignee not listed on this license, Canada must obtain U.S. prior approval before the material is re-transferred.
This is a link to the actual RSB export license from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission website in .pdf .
LINK
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:16 pm to boosiebadazz
capt and bamareps hate for HRC is so strong that nothing you can say will ever convince them that she is not responsible for everything that's gone wrong in their little lives
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:17 pm to texridder
There’s the killshot
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:19 pm to Cruiserhog
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How does it feel to know that you are such a scummy person you just lie whenever it suits your agenda on here.
Why don't you enlighten us?
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:23 pm to texridder
How does that counter the post you responded to?
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:23 pm to CptBengal
Those are the individuals who headed each agencies. They weren’t and didn’t have to review the sale themselves which is usually left to a civil servant.
Another swing and miss.
Listening to talk radio is not educating yourself. Go read
Another swing and miss.
Listening to talk radio is not educating yourself. Go read
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:24 pm to texridder
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This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 12:05 am
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:29 pm to boosiebadazz
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Reasonable minds can certainly disagree, but nothing you've offered in response is really probative at all.
Your arguments have not been probative either, but I sure as hell impeached yours!
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:30 pm to culsutiger
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So, in direct contradiction to boosie's assertion, uranium was exported.
Thanks for providing even more evidence that he was wrong.
The point is that the United States controls where the uranium is exported, not Russia.
This was a restriction on the Uranium One transaction imposed by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 5:31 pm to Turbeauxdog
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This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 12:04 am
Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:06 pm to texridder
quote:Who controls the export is irrelevant. Russian owned companies with direct ties to Putin now are making money off of US national security resources. The same Putin who is the most vile evil dictator on the face of the planet and the #1 enemy of the United States according to the left. You can’t support this deal or anyone who had a hand in it, and made money off it btw, and in the next breath claim that a Trump is a traitor because you want to believe he collided with Putin(when there is less than zero evidence to support it.). Well unless you are a complete hack of course. In that case carry on.
The point is that the United States controls where the uranium is exported, not Russia.
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