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re: Leftist elites hate conservatives with a passion So why are they so adamant on vaccination
Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:45 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:45 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
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The vaccine doesn't stop the spread
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A growing body of evidence indicates that people fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) are less likely to have asymptomatic infection or to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others.
Again, read my first post and the assumptions made.
This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 7:46 am
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Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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A growing body of evidence indicates that people fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) are less likely to have asymptomatic infection or to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others.
Again, you keep on telling me to read... but you're not reading.
It doesn't stop the spread and that link actually says it doesn't stop the spread.
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are less likely to have asymptomatic infection or to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others.
Even if true, which we really don't know... it doesn't stop the spread. The quote even had it in there.
This virus is most likely to be here forever, and its certainly not going anywhere because of these silly jabs.
This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 7:50 am
Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:50 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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Or maybe you are so driven by fear that your level of risk aversion is much higher than mine.
Why are you so driven by fear of taking the vaccine?
Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:51 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
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Even if true, which we really don't know... it doesn't stop the spread.
If the vaccine decreases the spread, then once enough get vaccinated, the spread will stop. This isn't complicated.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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If the vaccine decreases the spread, then once enough get vaccinated, the spread will stop. This isn't complicated.
No it won't.
This isn't complicated, nobody but you is saying the virus will be eradicated with this jab. All it does is slow the transmission rate, it doesn't stop transmission. The people that get the jab, even if it true that will works... will transmit it to others that have the jab.
That's why you have these people in the hospital that already have two jabs, what they are claiming isn't true or doesn't appear that way. But even if true, it won't eliminate the spread.
If you had a real vaccine maybe.
This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 7:57 am
Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:01 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
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All it does is slow the transmission rate,
Decreasing transmission rate that decreases faster over time (with more vaccinated people) will leave a scenario, ultimately, where there isn't any transfers left. Your argument is a strawman assuming this will happen at once when everyone is vaccinated but that's not true.
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If you had a real vaccine maybe.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:04 am to Eurocat
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It's been tested enough.
It's as safe as other vaccines.
IT'S WORKING.
1)Not possible
2)Premature assumption
3)Depends on your definition
The way this thing has played out, it feels like a sci-fi movie with not much sci, & a whole lotta fi. No thanks.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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where there isn't any transfers left.
No, because you can be reinfected, see all those people with double dose now in the hospital.
Not only can you get it after getting the vaccine, you can get it after you had it as well. If all it took was everyone to be infected to kill transmission, the flu wouldn't exist. quote:
Your argument is a strawman assuming this will happen at once when everyone is vaccinated but that's not true.
- the vaccine doesn't stop transmission
- the vaccine isn't stopping people from getting it
- people that get infected, can get reinfected
The virus isn't going anywhere because of the silly jabs.
This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 8:10 am
Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:05 am to Revelator
Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:07 am to Dustydubs
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The push for this vaccine is mind boggling. Hell the flu kills younger and they don’t push the flu vaccine like this. And again they use effective name calling to their advantage “antivaxxer” which in its self is a lie. It IS an experimental vaccine. This is the “science”. It has not been fully tested and it IS unnecessary. The numbers and the science just isn’t behind forcing people to take this crap. If it was killing 1 out of every 5 people then maybe I’d throw caution to the wind but for this??? No means No!!!
Promoting the vaccine to the adult population isn't mind boggling at all. The flu shot gets public interest ad campaigns, etc. Sure, some of the tactics are problematic, but the concept of the government "advertising" for the vaccine to promote public health isn't weird. That doesn't excuse the aggressive language or the door-to-door shite, but ads, flyers, celebrity spots - nothing odd at all about that.
Now, the push for children and teens is questionable at best, IMO. I don't think the risks are severe, but the risks from COVID to that bracket are non-existent. So if there are very slight risks from the vaccine and practically no risks from the virus, it's either illogical or it's an effort to promote the public health by forcing the vaccine on an unthreatened population. That is a major problem.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:10 am to Pettifogger
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Promoting the vaccine to the adult population isn't mind boggling at all.
Simple promotion isn’t the issue. Mandates and quasi-mandates are, and those are coming.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:10 am to Revelator
subjugation, submission
They want control. They want everyone to be obedient robots that they can turn on and off.
They want control. They want everyone to be obedient robots that they can turn on and off.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:11 am to Pettifogger
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Promoting the vaccine to the adult population isn't mind boggling at all. The flu shot gets public interest ad campaigns, etc. Sure, some of the tactics are problematic, but the concept of the government "advertising" for the vaccine to promote public health isn't weird. That doesn't excuse the aggressive language or the door-to-door shite, but ads, flyers, celebrity spots - nothing odd at all about that.
Now, the push for children and teens is questionable at best, IMO. I don't think the risks are severe, but the risks from COVID to that bracket are non-existent. So if there are very slight risks from the vaccine and practically no risks from the virus, it's either illogical or it's an effort to promote the public health by forcing the vaccine on an unthreatened population. That is a major problem.
They;re not promoting, they are pushing it and at some point probably try to force.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:23 am to Indefatigable
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Simple promotion isn’t the issue. Mandates and quasi-mandates are, and those are coming.
People have been screaming bloody murder on this board about the vaccine for months now, without mandates.
It's a regular pattern. Any suggestion of being pro-vaccine, mild as it may be, is obliterated on this board. And then when it's acknowledged, people say "we're not against it we just think it's our personal choice!" It's a dishonest argument. I'm not saying you participate in the hysteria, but this board's conduct is certainly not representative of a "you do you, I'll do me, hope it works well for everyone" approach.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:57 am to Revelator
It’s fully self interested. I have cousins in Boston that told me that I need to be vaccinated for them before I come up next year.
Way to science.
Way to science.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If a large enough group refuses to get vaccinated, that's not possible.
This isn’t true. Some people who are unvaccinated will catch covid, get over it, then develop natural antibodies. Once this happens to enough people, herd immunity will be achieved.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:27 pm to Pettifogger
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It's a regular pattern. Any suggestion of being pro-vaccine, mild as it may be, is obliterated on this board. And then when it's acknowledged, people say "we're not against it we just think it's our personal choice!" It's a dishonest argument. I'm not saying you participate in the hysteria, but this board's conduct is certainly not representative of a "you do you, I'll do me, hope it works well for everyone" approach.
What has the media, the politicians or people like Fauci done in the last four years to inspire trust in them?
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