re: Left-Wing News Hired Hitman Charged W/ 2nd Degree Murder Of Patriot

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How so?

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I've seen a lot of talk from my more reasonable left leaning friends and family.

They think he should go to jail.

I think their views on gun control influence them, honestly. Same may happen in Denver.

Yeah, I think it'd be easy to convince a couple witnesses that they didn't know it was mace until it was deployed. That would be enough.

And as far as retreating goes, he took a step or two back and then planted his feet. Is that correct? Or am I seeing that incorrectly?

I have a point...maybe, but I want to hear the answer to that.

Keltner? Keltner took a few steps back then planted his feet when Dolloff began to level and it became obvious he was about to die.

The “convenient” missing frames would likely show even more time, but what we have shows Dolloff drawing and then firing. Keltners feet are not planted until he engages the mace which occurs a fraction of a second before Dolloff fires.

In the final frame before the incident, Keltners right foot is somewhat relax with only the toe touching the ground, barely.

Dolloff has planted his foot and pulled the weapon into where it can become visible. Keltners feet were not planted prior to production of the weapon.

Helen Richardson and Jeremiah Elliot earlier in the day in front of the entrance/exit of the amphitheater for the Patriot Muster. She will photograph Elliot engaging in three separate altercations as the muster dismisses, all using the same tactics he used against Keltner. This is also the same spot where Elliot was interviewed by 9News while the Patriot Muster was underway.

In a final note of irony, off in the distance directly behind Richardson and Elliot is 14th Avenue West and the walkway where Lee Keltner will later be shot.

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Yeah, that was pretty stupid, but not insurmountable.

Dolloff's statement, if there is one, would easily outweigh the attorney's.

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The attorney’s statement is not remotely admissible. It was stupid from a PR standpoint, but the jury will never hear it.

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Newman says multiple times afterwards he knew it was mace.

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No, he does not. He says things like “he maced him” and “he was going to mace me” AFTER he already knew it had been mace. He never says that he knew this brforehand.

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It was stupid from a PR standpoint, but the jury will never hear it.

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Some of the jury has probably already heard it.

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If he saw the device in Keltners hand prior to being struck, why did he physically intervene prior to drawing his weapon?

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I looked at a few other things this afternoon, and I am to no longer convinced that Keltner was moving towards Newman. I think he was moving towards the Post photographer, Helen.

If you look at the last photo in her sequence from the prior confrontation, (maybe two seconds before Keltner hit Dolloff), Kelton is moving directly towards her. In another video he can be heard saying something along the lines of “we don’t need cameras here.I’m going to frick you up.”

I am not sure that Dolloff originall “involved himself” as much as accidentally finding himself between Keltner and Helen.

At that point, he clearly did put hands on Keltner’s chest and get popped in the head for it.

This tends to explain one gap in Helen’s burst sequence. Her finger could easily have come off the SR button, if she were trying to avoid Keltner moving at her.

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If Dolloff claims he saw it after the strike, then when, exactly, did you see it? If you didn’t see it before the strike, how did you manage to see it after with your glasses off and disoriented? You immediately went to draw after the slap; you mean to tell me you didn’t see anything in his hand before you were slapped, but then noticed it in the 0.25 seconds between you regaining focus and drawing your weapon?

If you noticed the device after you began to draw and aim, you realize you inappropriately escalated force in response to being struck once in the head and then put yourself in a position you have to shoot?

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Is there realy any doubt that Dolloff reach to draw and started to draw immediately after Keltner struck him AND BEFORE Keltner raised his arm and aimed?

We can disagree as to whether a strike to the head justifies drawing your handgun, but does anyone REALLY contest the simple, physical sequence of events?

In any case, I don’t think Dolloff saw exactly what was in Keltner’s hand. He just saw the arm raising into an aiming position. At that point, the training kicked in, and the decision to discharge his weapon was made, quite possibly before Keltner ever discharged the gas.