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Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:47 pm to beaux duke
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look up. i said it's easy. i do it routinely with work
You have access to ebitda? Revenue? Of course you don’t. You’re a Moron.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:50 pm to beaux duke
quote:
look up. i said it's easy. i do it routinely with work
My company is ABF. Not the trucking company. Valuate me. You dumb frick.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:57 pm to Victor R Franko
18 pages and plenty of poo flying about.
Any thread title with the word lawyer in it is chum in the water to the usual suspects.
You guys carry on and enjoy. Approaching my bed time and I have a big day planned tomorrow with Matt Dillon.
Any thread title with the word lawyer in it is chum in the water to the usual suspects.
You guys carry on and enjoy. Approaching my bed time and I have a big day planned tomorrow with Matt Dillon.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:07 am to Ailsa
quote:Gee. I wonder why the person making this claim never bothered to cite the actual constitutional language or where this supposed authority can be found? Extraordinary powers come with very specific text. This claim comes with a fricking Twitter graphic.
Perhaps it will go to SCOTUS?
Twitter Link
from the thread:
"Colorado has certainly met all the Prerequisites required for Corruption and Fraud"
Real fricking head scratcher.
Here is the actual, binding constitutional text being referenced, quoted in full:
“The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”
If someone is claiming Article II allows a president, under “exceptional conditions,” to override a state criminal conviction, the burden is simple. Cite the constitutional text, statute, or Supreme Court ruling that creates that emergency authority. Quote it.
If it cannot be quoted, it does not exist.
Throwing around phrases like Article II, emergency powers, or constitutional authority does not magically create law. Legal power comes from text and precedent, not from confident Twitter posts and legal sounding bullshite. If the authority were real, it would be easy to point to. Where is it located? Show it.
Maybe you idiots wouldn’t have wasted the last ten years running in circles and crying “conspiracy” every time some harebrained plan implodes if you stopped outsourcing basic civics to Twitter randoms and actually read the fricking law.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:22 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:So what were the results of your review?
Thanks Ailsa for posting. I'm reviewing the letter now.
Because if you actually read what’s being cited, it isn’t Article II pardon authority at all. It’s a handful of late-1800s cases about whether federal courts can prosecute state election officials when they’re administering federal elections. That’s a jurisdiction question, not a clemency one.
Where in that letter, or in any of the cases it references, does it say a state conviction becomes a federal conviction after the fact? Where does it say a state official is transformed into a federal officer for Article II purposes? And where does it create an “exceptional conditions” or emergency override allowing a president to nullify a final state criminal judgment?
If the answer is nowhere, then what exactly is supposed to go to SCOTUS? There’s no disputed constitutional text, no conflicting precedent, and no new legal theory grounded in actual law. At best, it's an argument that federal charges could have been brought instead of state ones, which is irrelevant once a state court has already convicted under state law.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 5:00 am to beaux duke
quote:He asked YOU to show YOUR work.
google search links - would donald trump be wealthier if he'd just invested?
Instead you cite sources like this:
("Account owner limits who can view their Posts")
quote:Loading Twitter/X Embed...
If tweet fails to load, click here.
Since you are apparently incapable of thinking for yourself, I'll help you out.
DJT is worth at least 20x what he would have been if he'd invested his inheritance in the S&P. That represents a 2000% error on the part of your "sources."
Here's the breakdown:
Fred Trump died in 1999.
His wife died the following year.
His entire estate was estimated at $250M.
Let's round that to $280M for easy math (which you seem to need).
Fred Trump basically disinherited his oldest son's family (after lawsuits the two grandkids ended up with $2.7M a piece), and divided his estate among the other four children, DJT, Maryanne, Elizabeth, and Robert at $70M each.
Maryanne, Elizabeth, and Robert essentially invested their portions as your imbecilic google sources suggested before the "account owners limited who can view their Posts."
Robert died in 2020.
His net worth was ~$200M.
Maryanne died in 2023.
Her estimated net worth was ~$200M.
But let's see what DJT's 1/4th of the $280M (that means $70M, beaux duke) inheritance would be worth, if he'd invested all of it in the market, and not withdrawn a single penny for any expense until now.
In Jan 2000, the S&P was ~1400. 25yrs later its ~6850. So it's up 4.9x over that span. Let's make that 5x for easy math (which you seem to need).
5 x $70M = $350M
DJT is worth ~$7B.
$350M =/= $7B
The $350M figure is borne out in the $200M estates of Maryanne, and Robert as they obviously would have withdrawn some of their funds for living expenses over time.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 5:06 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:It seems the woman is in jail. Now, I'm not a lawyer, but I suspect the legal system was involved in that.
The legal system wasn't involved.
Granted, on the Andy Griffith Show, Otis used to lock himself up all the time. So perhaps you're implying Peters did the same?
Posted on 12/15/25 at 6:38 am to beaux duke
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to value a privately held company.
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look up. i said it's easy. i do it routinely with work
You'd make the average Nepali look bright by comparison.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 6:40 am to northshorebamaman
quote:
So what were the results of your review?
I agree with you that the letter wasn't persuasive as to the issue of a Presidential pardon for state crimes:
"Ailsa, even if she were deemed to be a federal officer, that wouldn't shield her from Colorado state charges: "...if a federal official acts unlawfully, commits unauthorized acts, or acts unreasonably, they can be prosecuted under state law."
As much as I think Tina Peters was a hero for trying to expose Dominion, the jury clearly found that she acted "unlawfully" when she committed identity theft, for instance, under state law.
Whatever the case, if she thought she had some immunity as a "federal officer," the time to assert that was before trial. I'm afraid all of this is now irrelevant to the efficacy of the Presidential pardon issue."
Posted on 12/15/25 at 7:30 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:For the same reason everyone, when joining a discussion about justice for Blacks in 1950's Mississippi, immediately go to the Emmet Till case instead of what other accused Blacks actually did and what actually happened to them?
If only Matthew Dolloff was subject to the same "balanced" legal system.
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Why does everyone, when joining a discussion about Tina Peters, immediately go to facts/situations that have nothing to do with what Tina Peters actually did and what actually happened to Tina Peters?
Posted on 12/15/25 at 7:57 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
It seems the woman is in jail. Now, I'm not a lawyer, but I suspect the legal system was involved in that.
Oh you're just confused and conflating things
Go back to the post to which you replied to create this digression
quote:
Who "saved" data purportedly showing voter fraud that...checks notes....found nothing illegal.
That is not directly related to her conviction and is exclusively about the analysis of the data she helped steal and illegally distribute.
Hopefully this clears up your confusion and you can stop conflating this with her legal case.
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