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re: Larry Elder: Slavery: What They Didn't Teach in My High School
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:04 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:04 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Especially that part. It amazes me how many people I talk to who think that Africans were all on the same team.
It amazes me that some want to attribute humanity any sort of genuine altruism based on the where they are from.
Every region of this planet contained humans that have done fricked up things, and the relative position of these enclaves of humans impacted the content of the melanin in their skin, but not their morals.
I have heard liberals say, "everything that's wrong in the world today was caused by white/European colonialism and white/European imperialism". It's just about the stupidest thing on the fricking planet, but it's an easy narrative for them to latch on to as the unquestioned basis for their victim mentality.
Yet, and this is the only time I will ever link to CNN:
THERE IS A SLAVE TRADE GOING ON IN AFRICA RIGHT NOW.
And the most ironic part? It's a direct results of Obama and Hilldog wanting regime change in Libya. That's right. Obama did more to CREATE slavery than any President in our history. And you'll never hear liberals say one word about it. Because it's not done by white people south of the Missouri Compromise Line.
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Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:06 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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I think some want to bring attention to the fact that the CW wasn't an altruistic crusade by the north to end slavery (which it wasn't, of course). But to act like slavery wasn't the key issue is being wilfully obtuse. Unnecessarily so.
Yeah that makes sense. You is a smart feller.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:06 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Why does Brazil get such a parse?
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:06 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Why does Brazil get such a parse?
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:09 pm to L.A.
I read the Flying Carpet by Richard Halliburton as a kid.
He was a famous adventurer/travel writer - quasi historian. He wrote about 5 novels of his travels.
In the Flying Carpet he goes to Timbukto to chronical the slave trade and while at the "slave emporium" -
He buys a black slave from an African seller.
This was 1932.
He was a famous adventurer/travel writer - quasi historian. He wrote about 5 novels of his travels.
In the Flying Carpet he goes to Timbukto to chronical the slave trade and while at the "slave emporium" -
He buys a black slave from an African seller.
This was 1932.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:10 pm to TeLeFaWx
quote:
Every region of this planet contained humans that have done fricked up things, and the relative position of these enclaves of humans impacted the content of the melanin in their skin, but not their morals.
Yup. Every nation on this planet has a racist history. Bar none. But the one that fought a ridiculously bloody war over the subject and took basically less than two generations to eradicate the pseudo-caste postwar system.....THAT'S the one you want to say is the worst offender of all? Really?
quote:
THERE IS A SLAVE TRADE GOING ON IN AFRICA RIGHT NOW.
And the most ironic part? It's a direct results of Obama and Hilldog wanting regime change in Libya. That's right. Obama did more to CREATE slavery than any President in our history.
Jesus....
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:14 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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And Brazil was the LAST nation to abolish slavery.
(oh, and they hid Nazis; allegedly)
More so Argentina. There are still villages in Argentina that just speak German.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:29 pm to mindbreaker
quote:Absolutely. Slavery anywhere at any time is reprehensible.
That doesn't make american slavery any less of an atrocity.
In the US, it's so far back in the rear view mirror you can't see it. The people who are keeping it alive are the ones who relish being victims. A lot of people died sorting that crap out. If you happen to carry some sort of generational guilt, that's on you.
Don't infer what I've said re US slavery indicates I don't think racism isn't real. It is, and I also believe it's not the sole province of white folks. But don't conflate racism with slavery.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:52 pm to bmy
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because a certain demographic refuses to admit that their ancestors were traitors
You do realize that most of the Europeans and their ancestors in this country came here AFTER slavery right?
In fact, not having free slave labor necessitated bringing poor Europeans here. It's how my Sicilian grandparents got here.
Just think, if slavery were never ended, you'd probably have your whitey free utopia you wish for.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 8:04 pm to bmy
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More whataboutism. Most of our parents/grandparents were alive when black people were being murdered because they dared to demand equal rights.
It's hard.. because a certain demographic refuses to admit that their ancestors were traitors
Hyperbole much?
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:08 pm to mindbreaker
quote:the point is that colonialism was a worldwide phenomenon. it is a brute fact. even so, american christians fought to end it in this country. but this never gets acknowledged. people act like white christians are somehow STILL guilty. no one ever attacks the african slave system. only the white people are guilty.
So your argument is see other people did it too?
euro countries needed cheap labor. they raided the african slave trade market. all of it was wrong but again, it was a brute fact. there was enough blame to go around. once americans realized it was wrong, they ended it.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:10 pm to bmy
quote:WHITE PEOPLE successfully fought for equal rights. but don't mention that.
Most of our parents/grandparents were alive when black people were being murdered because they dared to demand equal rights.
quote:the ones who ended slavery? the ones who won equal rights for all people? those ancestors?
a certain demographic refuses to admit that their ancestors were traitors
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:15 pm to bmy
quote:what "problems" are you referring to? slavery? ended. equal rights? ensured. what do i need to solve next?
For problems in our own country.. that we have control over
don't say systemic racism because my country TWICE freely elected a black man to the highest office of the land and has laws punishing discrimination of minorities
so, america isn't perfect. where are you going to go? what other country is doing more for minorities than america. warning - i have a response prepared for ANY country you are about to list that is "better" than america
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:16 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:16 pm to bmy
quote:yes, evil white people are from the shadows forcing black people to kill each other.
But thats by design
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:19 pm to bmy
quote:No problems in this country are rooted in slavery.
For problems in our own country.. that we have control over
Not a single one.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:20 pm to mindbreaker
quote:yes, it was an atrocity. that's not the issue. people like you are acting like IT IS STILL an atrocity. white people fought a civil war, successfully, to end it. it is over. the issue is decided.
That doesn't make american slavery any less of an atrocity
i've already addressed systemic racism so don't even bother bringing that up
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:21 pm to bmy
quote:who is doing this? where? what are they doing?
racist traitors are glorified like they are
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:22 pm to bmy
quote:the point of the question was why anyone would do that. it doesn't benefit anyone. it's a stupid idea
Who said anything about what is best for this country?
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:26 pm to CommoDawg
quote:you're making his point for him. these things that are done in third world countries are outlawed in western nations. now, who was responsible for that?
Forced Marriage is slavery?
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