re: Kyle used his COVID Stimulus money to buy the rifle

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Probably not one but slippery slope with today's government. Rifle purchases are federal and the form is federal. Who knows how ATF will treat it. I sure wouldn't want to put my freedom in the hands of ATF.

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Have you not been paying attention? The ATF already does this. They make up arbitrary rules that continue to inhibit 2nd Amendment rights. It is authoritarian and they infringe on yours and everyone else's freedoms every damn day.

Good example is how the ATF tried to shut down Rare Breed claiming it's FRT-15 trigger makes a rifle into a machine gun despite you still have to pull the trigger to fire subsequent rounds. It just allows for a forced reset of the trigger to fire faster. No different than me modifying my Glock for a better trigger pull allowing me to fire a subsequent shot faster.


The ATF shouldn't exist, period.

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Someone is in trouble. Felony to do a straw purchase. He was 17 at the time.

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Please look up he statute.

Ur ignotrant.

There's 'intent', and there's actual deed.

Intent is where it gets murky. Kyle wanted an AR, and he pursued avenues to get one lined up before he was 18. Oooh, sounds bad. He even gave the buyer money. Yikes.

He also made no attempt to take it into his possession, UNTIL he was legally able to own it. He needed to get an FOID card, he was working on that. He was also about to turn 18, the transfer/sale to him would not physically occur until both things happened.

Maybe the store ran a deal on ARs, and they were otherwise hard to come by (which, BTW, they were at the time). "Hey Mr Black, if you buy an extra rifle now, I will buy it from you when I can do so". That in itself isn't a felony, perhaps Mr Black had already considered getting another while he could.

Like I said, intent vs deed- and the interest in Gaige Grosskuentz. He was shot at a riot far away from where he's from, testifying under oath that it occurred only after he pointed the gun he was illegally concealing at another person- one he pursued, yelling "get him".

I want to see attempted murder, illegal carrying of a concealed firearm, assault with a deadly weapon charges. At least consider them. Instead, he gets a DWI dropped.

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I'm done with my unpopular opinions on Kyle.

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It's not that they were unpopular, they were ignorant. There was no straw purchase made, and they were pretty careful about following the law. When people tried to correct you you called them "Kyle worshippers".

The rest of your post is you saying this whole saga is a bad look for gun owners. We might agree on a few things there, but that's a different claim.

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Kyle wanted an AR

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Kyle actually wanted a shotgun, but the store didn’t have one. So they got the AR-15 instead.