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re: Kyle Rittenhouse- Jury Instructions/Closing Arguments
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:51 am to KosmoCramer
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:51 am to KosmoCramer
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To keep objecting makes their case look weak.
He also keeps being shot down because he can "bring it up in his closing" even though he has legitimate objectives.
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:51 am to Havoc
Still don't know why the defense didn't claim that the ziminski shot caused or added to the fear of death or bodily harm. When I first learned of all this days after it happened I assumed it did. Running away and hear a shot go off would make someone fear for their life.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:51 am to MFn GIMP
quote:because the prosecution knew better than to put him on the stand.
How do the Ziminskis have nothing to do with the case? Binger is saying he provoked his being attacked by aiming a gun at Ziminski.
it would have gone poorly for them. they didnt even bother to take his pistol.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:53 am to CAD703X
Holy shite. Richards is horrible.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:53 am to Havoc
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Still don't know why the defense didn't claim that the ziminski shot caused or added to the fear of death or bodily harm. When I first learned of all this days after it happened I assumed it did. Running away and hear a shot go off would make someone fear for their life.
I agree, hopefully they tie it together in their closing.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:53 am to Havoc
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Still don't know why the defense didn't claim that the ziminski shot caused or added to the fear of death or bodily harm. When I first learned of all this days after it happened I assumed it did. Running away and hear a shot go off would make someone fear for their life.
I don’t know if this was addressed specifically but it was definitely alluded to during Kyle’s testimony of events that night.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:53 am to CAD703X
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because the prosecution knew better than to put him on the stand.
Yet they still allowed the one armed wonder to testify…
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:53 am to Bobby OG Johnson
After the OJ trial I would be terrifed to go before ANY jury!
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:53 am to CAD703X
This is just my screen grab of a YouTube video and playing with the contrast. Look at the position of Ziminski and Rittenhouse. In particular pay attention to Ziminski’s left arm. His back is turned to Kyle as he continues down the street. The fire extinguisher is also on the ground. So if they’ve come face to face, the extinguisher has been dropped and Ziminski has turned his back Kyle has to be headed in the opposite direction as per testimony. Notice also who is absent in the image. Rosenbaum has not come into frame because he is still making his way around the front of the Duramax where they would ultimately meet. Only then does Kyle again change directions. There is simply no way Rosenbaum was in any position to see the encounter between Kyle and Ziminski because even after both parties go in opposite directions he is still behind the truck.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:54 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
He's taking something that happened in half of a second and breaking it down as if it was 1-2 minutes.SMH.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:54 am to LouisianaTigers
How are yall feeling about this? Im not feeling good....the defense is 100% dropping the ball here
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:54 am to MFn GIMP
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Holy shite. Richards is horrible.
his closing better have every piece of object-able material from the prosecution's closing
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:54 am to CAD703X
"Can't claim self defense against an unarmed man."
lolz Not how it works. Amazed that the law allows him to make bald faced lies like that.
Anyone that saw that nutjob Rosenbaum in action would say he was capable of killing someone.
lolz Not how it works. Amazed that the law allows him to make bald faced lies like that.
Anyone that saw that nutjob Rosenbaum in action would say he was capable of killing someone.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:55 am to CFB_Fanatic
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How are yall feeling about this? Im not feeling good....the defense is 100% dropping the ball here
How are they dropping the ball?
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:55 am to CFB_Fanatic
im no lawyer, but how is the defense just letting this guy ramble off like these are "facts"
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:55 am to CFB_Fanatic
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How are yall feeling about this? Im not feeling good....the defense is 100% dropping the ball here
...it isn't their turn yet
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:55 am to gsvar2004
Objecting during a close is a no-no. They will get their chance.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:56 am to CFB_Fanatic
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How are yall feeling about this? Im not feeling good....the defense is 100% dropping the ball here
Wait until defense closing. It's just frustrating hearing all these lies. Closing is always rough because how much latitude they have and often strategy to not object.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:56 am to Havoc
quote:well they did. kyle said this on the stand.
Still don't know why the defense didn't claim that the ziminski shot caused or added to the fear of death or bodily harm. When I first learned of all this days after it happened I assumed it did. Running away and hear a shot go off would make someone fear for their life.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:56 am to pankReb
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...it isn't their turn yet
is it against the rules to object?
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