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Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:23 am to joshnorris14
I hate to tell you this, but there are a large percentage of people on this site that completely agree with Lindsey Graham’s statements:
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“I go back to South Carolina, I’m asking them to send their sons and daughters over to the Mideast.”
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“To our friends in Israel, God bless you. I am with you in every way. To all the anti-Semites, to all the isolationists, I don’t—forget it. I’m not with you. I’m with Israel. I will be with Israel until our dying day. They’re the best ally we could hope for.”
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:30 am to jnethe1
Israel Firsters
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:33 am to joshnorris14
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Israel Firsters
Meanwhile we fight their wars and pay for all of their social services and military. Then once the wars are over the Muslims and other people that have been displaced don’t go to other Muslim countries, instead they go to predominantly white/christian countries. Probably just a coincidence though.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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They can't seem to discuss Massie without using referential (relation to Trump or "the left") or irrelevant (who endorsed him) points. They seem completely unable to simply address the policies.
Neither can you, apparently…your opening melt:
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This Massie Derangement Syndrome is definitely the peak of the irrational MAGA hive mind.
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or irrelevant (who endorsed him) points.
But not irrelevant for his opponent, or your melty position on the matter
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guy openly backed by a foreign state
Massie is a turd, if he can’t win as an incumbent, perhaps he just hasn’t met the standard of his constituents to hold the job, which is much narrower than your ridiculous framing. The posters here don’t matter at all unless they live in his district, but your thirst for outside influence is noted.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:38 am to joshnorris14
Thats not what your own quote says. Come on Josh, you have always been better than this.
Massie dug his own grave. No, he was not wrong about everything. But he, as of late, embraced the anti Jewish rhetoric and actively worked against Trump, a man who was put into office with a plan by the people.
Massie own district is extremely pro Trump and Massie should have represented the majority of his district.
He went the opposite way. And now his job is going to go to somebody else.
Massie dug his own grave. No, he was not wrong about everything. But he, as of late, embraced the anti Jewish rhetoric and actively worked against Trump, a man who was put into office with a plan by the people.
Massie own district is extremely pro Trump and Massie should have represented the majority of his district.
He went the opposite way. And now his job is going to go to somebody else.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:51 am to OceanMan
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Neither can you, apparently…your opening melt:
Those 2 statements aren't comparable and aren't even discussing the same thing. Holy shite, do better.
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But not irrelevant for his opponent, or your melty position on the matter
Again melty?
His opponent is a sock puppet who didn't even debate. There isn't anything to discuss other than he's an empty vessel for MAGA-related talking points (that change policy positions when necessary). That's one of the sad things about this situation is that Massie is likely to lose to a literal NPC candidate.
I wish we could actively discuss the two as candidates, but that's not possible given how his opponent has run.
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Massie is a turd,
Based on what, exactly? His small government conservatism?
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if he can’t win as an incumbent
He has, many times, until people supporting a foreign state over the US made this the most expensive Congressional race in history.
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he just hasn’t met the standard of his constituents to hold the job,
The fact he's won so often with such support and is facing opposition now should raise more questions than this stock talking point, but deep analysis doesn't seem to be your strong suit
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:52 am to moneyg
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It’s ok to support Massie. I once supported Massie. It just got to the point where Trump told me he was the worst Republicna ever so I changed my mind. Now hate him.
FIFY
Or feel free to name one single vote Massie made that contradicts any previously held position. IOW, find a specific vote where he voted with Dems, against his principles because of his alleged TDS.
You simply can’t.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:54 am to Ten Bears
Why is this thread anchored?
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:13 am to joshnorris14
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If Biden's budget was bad, do you oppose Trump and the congressional Republicans for passing it a 2nd time?
Big picture, of course. The government spends way too much money.
But, back to Massie, he voted against the Republican budget....just after the voting public basically endorsed it by voting in Trump and his agenda.
Compare this to voting for the Biden budget when the country NEEDED to reset its baseline to pre-COVID spending.
I want Massie to be who he pretends to be. Unfortunately, he's not that person.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:33 am to stuntman
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Un-fricking-believable.
It’s completely believable. This are some low-IQ, low-information, supremely stupid, cultist motherfrickers.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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Those 2 statements aren't comparable and aren't even discussing the same thing. Holy shite, do better.
They are certainly related, and both appear to be using “referential points” Can you discuss Massie without bringing up Trump or MAGA or any other group you have the responsibility to define.
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Again melty?
Seems that way.
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Based on what, exactly? His small government conservatism?
Based on the fact that he seems to be circling the drain in a district he typically dominates in.
Maybe, he is not performing as well because he has made himself a much more public figure during his term and he has lost popularity in his district. And maybe during this self promotion campaign, he made his voters think he cares more about his own interests above theirs.
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He has, many times, until people supporting a foreign state over the US made this the most expensive Congressional race in history.
So is all this money being spent creating new voters or something? Is Massey not also spending money? What’s your point here? That he has postured to be a critical vote in recent legislation and that another lobby wants to have the vote? That’s pretty basic politics these days.
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The fact he's won so often with such support and is facing opposition now should raise more questions than this stock talking point, but deep analysis doesn't seem to be your strong suit
Ah yes, the stock talking point of representative government has no place in this discussion. It must be something deeper, only a fool couldn’t see it.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:38 am to moneyg
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Massie voted for the bloated Biden budget
Never fricking happened. He voted for a CR that contained a reduction in spending.
You lying, dumb frick.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 8:42 am
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:49 am to moneyg
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Compare this to voting for the Biden budget when the country NEEDED to reset its baseline to pre-COVID spending.
The Trump budget included the Biden budget. Help me understand the point you are making.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:59 am to Ten Bears
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FIFY
Or feel free to name one single vote Massie made that contradicts any previously held position. IOW, find a specific vote where he voted with Dems, against his principles because of his alleged TDS.
You simply can’t.
You need to read this thread. It’s already done. It was massive.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:00 am to Chancellor
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He voted for a CR
Correct
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that contained a reduction in spending.
Incorrect.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:14 am to moneyg
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Correct
I know it’s correct. Your claim was that he voted for Biden’s budget. He did not. That claim is a lie.
A CR is not a budget bill. It’s a temporary stop-gap bill.
You clearly don’t know what you’re attempting to talk about. You’re just repeating stupid shite you read in a chain email.
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Incorrect
It’s not incorrect. The CR for which he voted contained a reduction in spending- a reduction of 1% to military spending and another 1% somewhere else. And that’s why he voted for it.
That’s an absolute fact.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 9:37 am
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