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re: Knowing what you know now, how did Floyd die?

Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66100 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:44 pm to
Cascading bad choices like most people who aren’t old
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56111 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:45 pm to
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and asked to lay down.


he begged and then squirmed his way to the ground

let me lay down, please, I can't breathe, I can't feel my face, everything hurts"
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:45 pm to
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He’d be alive if not for that and no way around it.


Pure speculation. You have no way of knowing how his condition would have played out.
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:45 pm to
The combination of OD and Covid.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
20900 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:46 pm to
Terminal stupidity
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83032 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:46 pm to
Wasn’t there an autopsy?
How the hell would I know how he died?
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
7651 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:48 pm to
Cocaine is a bitch!
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56111 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:48 pm to
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How the hell would I know how he died?


videos brah....do you even tic tok?
Posted by Armytiger87
Member since Aug 2015
129 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:49 pm to
Who cares? A man who was given several second chances at life died in the process of violently resisting arrest. When I see the same level of vitriol about any white person killed by the police, like Daniel shaver or Tony Timpa, then I’ll care.

Until the real racists acknowledge that whites killed by police actually matter as well, then I’ll give maybe I’ll give a shite about GF.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23047 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:53 pm to
IF..

The cop would not have a video, of him with is knee on Floyds neck for 8+ minutes then I would agree with your 0P

Seeing the entire video I do agree that the criminal wanted to be held on the ground, instead of being in the police car, I understand your OP.

The above being said, what should have happened was, He should have been arrested and taken to jail 10 to 15 minutes before he died.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:53 pm to
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Knee by policeman?

or Drug over dose?




2 coroners have determined the nature of death was homicidal. An overdose would have been ruled an accidental death or suicide. A heart attack would be ruled natural causes.

There is no evidence at all that he suffered from a heart attack despite laymen misunderstading cardiopulmonary arrest vs heart attack. He would have had to survive a heart attack for 4-6 hours, had an EKG, or cardiac enzymes drawn to have any evidence of a heart attack, none of those things happened.
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 6:54 pm
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
4201 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:56 pm to
I think he popped what he had in his car so he wouldn’t get caught with it. He’s frantic and emotional initially. Gradually goes out like fentanyl tends to do.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33491 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:57 pm to
Dude was dead before they took him out of his car from drugs.

Also, the amount of fentanyl in his blood is not a good indicator of the actual amount. It rises for some reason after death.

Still think whatever drug he took killed him.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 6:58 pm to
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I think he popped what he had in his car so he wouldn’t get caught with it. He’s frantic and emotional initially. Gradually goes out like fentanyl tends to do.


Fentanyl overdoses pass out in their car and slowly asphyxiate, they don't give 3 cops physical difficulty in compliance.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56111 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:00 pm to
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2 coroners have determined the nature of death was homicidal


first I've heard

did the corrupt Black attorney named Benjamin Crump have any ties to the coroners?

Legit question

the toxicology report was said to be 3 times the amount of Fentenyl one can take and plan to live...

feel free to dispute this...

Crump said BS, and immediately paid to have another report done and low and beyold, it supported homicide...

so one has to make their own conclusions with all the polical football being played.

I can't breathe at least 15 times before the knee is significant

you can not prove how much pressure was put on his neck

after you see police head cam videos, they are simply trying to get him to calm down...they allow him out of hte car to lie down, the man begged to let them let him lie down

he tapped out...so the question is why did he tap out

when he was in the back seat of the SUV, he said "I am going to die, I can't breathe" something along these lines

he rambled a lot for a man who couldn't breathe
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 7:02 pm
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:01 pm to
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Also, the amount of fentanyl in his blood is not a good indicator of the actual amount. It rises for some reason after death.



the amount of fentanyl measured in his blood (11ng) is lower than the lowest dose fentanyl patches (12ng). If what you say is true then that is falsely increased due to his death to an amount that equates to lower than the lowest dose.
Posted by OverseasBengal
Member since Dec 2018
1107 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Knowing what you know now, how did Floyd die?



Too quickly
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:02 pm to
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the toxicology report was said to be 3 times the amount of Fentenyl one can take and plan to live...
feel free to dispute this...




sure thing. I will disupute that.
this is false. his blood level showed lower amount (11ng) than the lowest dose of fentanyl that can be given (12ng). at the time of his death he had less than the lowest dose of fentanyl.
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 7:05 pm
Posted by griswold
Member since Oct 2009
4235 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:02 pm to
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how did Floyd die?

From a lifetime of poor choices.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23309 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:03 pm to
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He’d be alive if not for that and no way around it.


How do you know that? Floyd had a lethal amount of methamphetamine and a fatal dose of fentanyl in his bloodstream. That is a toxic drug combination. That in no way exonerates Chauvin but it certainly ameliorates the chances the cop will not be convicted of the murder charge.
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 7:04 pm
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