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Kids have had access to guns for a very long time...

Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:07 pm
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:07 pm
...but shooting up the school is a relatively new phenomenon.

Growing up, I had access to at least 15 guns and accompanying ammo at any moment from 1st grade on. However, it never crossed my mind to shoot up the school whenever I was picked on. I would imagine there are/were hundreds of thousands of other kids in Alabama who could say the same.

It’s obvious to me that gun access isn’t the issue...so what might have changed?
Posted by dantes69
Boise, Id.
Member since Aug 2011
2022 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:11 pm to
it happened at my high school, no one got hurt bad, in 1974
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
4932 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:13 pm to
Mental health crisis. Plus MSM broadcasting these events. Isolated losers and loners who want their fifteen minutes of columbine fame by going out with a bang.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:15 pm to
Same here. Grew up with a house full of guns and once I was 12 or 13 could access them without even asking.

In high school even as recently as the 80’s, it was nothing for guys to shotguns or rifles in their vehicles on campus during hunting season. It wasn’t a big deal.

Access to firearms is not a mitigating factor in school shootings.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 5:16 pm
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
13350 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:15 pm to
Its not a relatively new phenomena. There's just a worldwide 24 hour news cycle and pervasive social media to keep it in your face for weeks on end.

LINK
Posted by Presidio
Member since Nov 2017
3060 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

It’s obvious to me that gun access isn’t the issue...so what might have changed?


The proliferation and ulceration of radical social liberalism.

Exterminate that and all manner of modern problems will disappear.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 5:17 pm
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:17 pm to
I hate silent downvoters.

Be a man and post.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37526 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:20 pm to
Proliferation of shitty parents who don't raise their kids right and just put them on meds instead of disciplining them properly
Posted by Bamafan24
Huntsville
Member since Oct 2014
8283 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:21 pm to
this is the tide pod challenge generation. If the liberals dont run this country into the ground it will be the millennial.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44025 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:25 pm to
Gun control folks will try to tell you the weapons of today are more advanced. But with the exception of better scopes, firearms haven’t changed much over 100 years.

I think the answer lies more in the taboo nature that many on the left have attached to guns. Like anything else, the more familiar/comfortable a kid is with something, the less attractive it is. Once something is prohibited, it becomes appealing. Firearms used to be tools, not unlike a hammer. Now they’re mystical killing devices that operate independently of human contact.

Of course, there’s also the issue of a modern culture that places little value in faith and looking out for one another.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64663 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

It’s obvious to me that gun access isn’t the issue...so what might have changed?

Just my own conjecture but 24/7 news coverage giving teenagers ideas and their 15 minutes of fame
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64663 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

Gun control folks will try to tell you the weapons of today are more advanced. But with the exception of better scopes, firearms haven’t changed much over 100 years.

Seriously and this most recent shooting was done with a .38 and a shotgun
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7961 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:29 pm to
Bought my first at 12, mine not dads. Had everything covered by the time I was 16. Never had to ask, just told them where I would be. Gun in the truck at HS during hunting season, pocket knife everyday. Never entered my mind to use anything but fists and boots to handle conflict. If I took an asswhipping so be it and in a week or two we’ll go again. Definitely a cultural problem
Posted by geauxdaddy72
Shreveport,La
Member since Sep 2008
885 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:30 pm to
I kept a rifle or shotgun in my truck at high school during hunting season. There was probably guns in trucks everyday when I was in school but we were taught to go beat somebody’s arse and not shoot up the school. Kids these days are fragile little flowers that get there feelings hurt because you take their damn Xbox away.
Posted by burdhead
WOMP WOMP!!
Member since Apr 2017
6008 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:32 pm to
like you, i grew up with a gun in my hand from the about the 3rd grade on....so did all of my kinfolk,friends and classmates....the difference in that day than now is our parents were married, they carried us to church, they instilled doing the right thing and if we got in trouble somewhere, we got in trouble again when we got home....that trouble at home included a severe asswhipping,too....we were surrounded by the proper structure and support....today, you have about 50% of the kids raised by filth for parents, or PARENT in most cases....as a male, we were taught to be men, not damned sissies like most of the leftists on this board are...bullied, didn't happen but on rare occasion....see, we could fight, and would do it in a second....we had raising, real raising, done in the right way....today, you have animals kept in a zoo
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:37 pm to
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Exterminate


Always has been one of my favorite words when talking about the enemy
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17170 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

15 minutes of fame


Now that for me is something I simply cannot identify with.

Fame is a target on your back. No enjoyment to be had as EVERYONE under the sun is now watching your every moment (moving or non-moving)once famous. You're marked for extortion, blackmail, harassment, stalking, you name the annoyance another person can bring, they absolutely WILL bring it, constantly, 24/7/365.

Fortune? Sure, I could learn to endure the hardships riches bring. But keep that Fame crap far far away!
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:50 pm to
I’ll add the influence of the internet, also. Kids can really get their heads filled with a lot of evil garbage.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 5:51 pm
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5601 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 6:06 pm to
Principles no longer beat the students arse. We feared the principle and our parents. And respected them.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 6:14 pm to
People claim video games and Hollywood aren’t the problem.

But video games and Hollywood are the problem.
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