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re: Kids are being taken from ‘non-affirming’ parents.

Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:50 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:50 am to
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So how do you explain the states who didn't remove children from non-affirming parents for decades now doing it?

Giving states too much power doesn't mean their standards are static.

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Your logic says people shouldn't have been worried about it happening because it hadn't happened before.

No my argument is states have too much power.

They should have always been worried about the state/CPS.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467800 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:50 am to
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Gay marriage allows people to live life as they choose
Taking kids from parents punishes the parents from living life as they choose.

Correct.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27032 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:50 am to
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is you abandoning the point.


My point was a hypothetical where Kamala is elected and successfully federalized already accepted progressive policy, be it through more policy or actual legislation.

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This is what you actually replied with:


Yes, you think it's outlandish for someone to think that Kamala would try and push this sort of legislation/outright make it government policy via one of several governmental agencies who've already weighed in on this issue?
This post was edited on 10/19/24 at 9:52 am
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27032 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:52 am to
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No my argument is states have too much power.


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a. He hasn't, and he had 4 years.


That was your top reason.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:52 am to
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Gay marriage allows people to live life as they choose


I dont have issues with gay marriage, or gayness in general.

I have major problems with LBGTQ, which is nothing but a political association which has vaulted trannies above normal gay folks.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16659 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:55 am to
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A person can easily be against this behavior at the state/local level and not support Trump, because there is no overlap.
I open this thread and see it's blown out to 7 pages and i'm so not shocked to see this dumbass in here ignoring the OP (as usual) and trying to completely derail the thread(as usual) with his TDS fueled psychosis (as usual).
This post was edited on 10/19/24 at 9:55 am
Posted by Roll on Tigers
Across the Border
Member since Jul 2013
4804 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:57 am to
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I'm sure atheist parents have had to deal with over-bearing CPS workers in heavily Christian areas.


This is why nobody takes you seriously. You pull up hypotheticals out of the air and try to pass it off as fact. You’re such a clown.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15189 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:58 am to
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have major problems with LBGTQ, which is nothing but a political association which has vaulted trannies above normal gay folks.



Guess what I have a major problem with the same alphabet group plus I only look at them as LGB..no other letters.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467800 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:58 am to
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That was your top reason.

That was my response to your silly hypothetical.

You made a prediction and I gave evidence why it was silly.

I even later gave a corollary to abortion
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:58 am to
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I'm sure atheist parents have had to deal with over-bearing CPS workers in heavily Christian areas.


Naivety raises its ugly head, again..
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467800 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:58 am to
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ignoring the OP

I'm not.

I also responded directly to a post who brought up Trump, not the OP.
This post was edited on 10/19/24 at 9:59 am
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27032 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 10:02 am to
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That was my response to your silly hypothetical.


You don't need to tell me, I know that shitty response came from you. That's why I'm rubbing your face in it.

Let me re-ask this since you may have missed it.

Despite Kamala wanting to use federal dollars to fund illegal immigrant child transition procedures, and despite progressive states removing children from "non-gender affirming parents", and despite numerous federal agencies that deal with health and child welfare state their stances are that it's harmful for children to remain with "non-gender affirming parents", you felt the need to step into a conversation about "what if" Kamala is able to push this crap at a federal level to argue that it's ridiculous to even entertain such an idea?

Does that about sum up your presence here?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467800 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 10:04 am to
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Let me re-ask this since you may have missed it.


"let me re-word my question since I was exposed earlier and tried to crawfish earlier"

You're not asking me the same question.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112879 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 10:05 am to
frick it, the question is simple:

If Kamala could snap her fingers and make this federal policy, would she?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467800 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 10:06 am to
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You don't need to tell me, I know that shitty response came from you.


Shitty hypotheticals don't require much to disprove them.

And you're trying to conflate your hypothetical with my comment that states have too much power (which has been my argument).

Little lesson: you making an argument and giving an hypothetical that is popped by me is not "my argument". That's your argument (being disposed of).

My argument is something else entirely. You don't get to frame everything around your argument and then claim the responses are the only acceptable responses, then plant a flag due to your framing.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125759 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 10:07 am to
Ackshually.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467800 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 10:08 am to
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If Kamala could snap her fingers and make this federal policy, would she?

Does she want to win elections?

This is just like abortion. There is a reason it never became federal legislative policy when DEMs had all three branches.

You could project the same fear porn (and this actually happened for decades). Could they? Yes. Would they have paid a severe pollical price? Yes. So they didn't.

Same here.

That's why the most you get is some non-binding memorandum. Not even a regulatory rule proposal.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27032 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 10:08 am to
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"let me re-word my question since I was exposed earlier and tried to crawfish earlier"

You're not asking me the same question.


So you did see it...

I even modified the language to make it easier for you to answer AND YOU STILL PASSED

Thanks for the answer.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467800 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 10:09 am to
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Ackshually.


Proving people wrong is not the proper use of that meme.

But it's on brand.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16659 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 10:09 am to
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Does that about sum it up?
perfectly
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