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re: Kash responds to Candace Owens claims about Charlie Kirk

Posted on 12/6/25 at 7:58 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 7:58 am to
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He laid out something pretty personal to a group of trusted people. One she was apart of.


Being “trusted” doesn’t mean you are “great friends” with someone. I am trusted by those who work underneath me because I have proven that I’m reliable, dependable, and know something of what I am talking about. We communicate in group chats quite frequently as well. Our relationship, however, is purely professional.

By all accounts that is what Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens devolved into starting in 2023. Candace is the only one saying otherwise and it’s quite obvious she’s doing it for money.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5894 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:17 am to
Sure if you were never considered a "great friend". But if you have been, and still in the "circle of trust" then you are still a "great friend".
Posted by tigerclicks
San Antonio, Tx.
Member since Jan 2008
629 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:55 am to
Do you think TPUSA making 80 million on selling Freedom shirts, just like the one Charlie was wearing, is not capitalizing on his death also? Some of you people, or bots, are clueless. The only way to hide the truth is to lie or stay silent. Step back for a minute and listen. Feelings are not the same as truths.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69703 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:58 am to
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But if you have been, and still in the "circle of trust" then you are still a "great friend".


Being on good terms with someone doesn't necessarily mean you are a great friend. As has been reported, Candace was in that WhatsApp group because she is influential within conservative circles and still had a cordial relationship with Charlie Kirk despite their falling out.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69703 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:59 am to
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Do you think TPUSA making 80 million on selling Freedom shirts, just like the one Charlie was wearing, is not capitalizing on his death also?


Two things can be true at the same time. This isn't the "gotcha" you think it is. When a popular CEO dies, companies typically invoke his/her legacy when trying to advance their position. At least TPUSA, the man's organization, is doing it so they can survive (they are reportedly in a bad way). Candace Owens is doing it because of greed.
This post was edited on 12/6/25 at 9:02 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125448 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:02 am to
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We talking facts baby.


Candace isn’t talking facts.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125448 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:09 am to
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However, Coleman Hughes just did an analysis of Fuentes juxtaposing his "streamer" personality with how he's represented himself on his recent podcast tour.


He says he was a fan Stalin on Tucker to get more clicks and be more infamous. When he gets challenged on it, he pretends he meant something different than what he said.

He does that over and over and over.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125448 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:11 am to
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Do you think TPUSA making 80 million on selling Freedom shirts, just like the one Charlie was wearing, is not capitalizing on his death also?


There’s a huge difference in selling shirts memorializing your assassinated head of your organization and farming for clicks by insinuating that Charlie’s wife was involved in the assassination.

Now lie and say Candace hasn’t done that.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14672 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:28 am to
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I hear this alot lately but totally disagree.
Whether or not I like Nick, Tucker, Candice, PBD, Shawn Ryan, etc. doesn't change my basic core belief in America and it's traditional values, nor will it make me vote Democrat.
Media and Social Media amplifies this garbage and its dumb.


I think there's a legitimate question as to how much of the online stuff translates to real life.

Online, the right is absolutely divided. However, in Washington, not much, if any, of the Tucker/Fuentes ideology has manifested into policy.

Anyone with a brain can tell most of these influencers are grifting because conspiracy and controversy is the easiest way to monetization. The Candace simps around here are pathetic. But, if none of these people actually vote, it really doesn't matter too much IRL
Posted by tigerclicks
San Antonio, Tx.
Member since Jan 2008
629 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 12:09 am to
The lie is that Candace has insuated that Erika was involved in Charlie's execution. She said that Charlie was betrayed by TPUSA and some of his closest friends. Never once saying Erika was involved. Your feelings don't matter.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125448 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:17 am to
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The lie is that Candace has insuated that Erika was involved in Charlie's execution.


Anyone who actually listens to her podcast knows that she’s insinuating Erika is involved. Sell that garbage somewhere else.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6332 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:25 am to
I dont know what all Candace is claiming....but i dont believe the official narrative.
No autppsy released, no bullet shown, stills of videos, short clips of videos shown ro sell their story. A 30-06 round would definitely have an exit wound.
Im not buying it.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2592 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:30 am to
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Candace may be wrong about all of it but I’m surprised how many on this board just believe what the feds tell us happened.


Exactly.

quote:

Tyler Robinson does not look like the guy they showed everyone prior to capture.
The level of security for the event was a joke.
That roof isn’t even above eye level where thousands of people were that day.
The wound looks like an exit wound to many military people.
That round of ammunition would have likely done more damage. The only video we’ve been provided in the year 2025 is grainy and almost worthless.


BOOM ( board fairy-dust believers: "You're a cray-cray kook!!" )

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Some of the people at TPUSA have clearly lied about Charlie Kirk’s beliefs toward Israel
His wife is beyond strange and possibly the most fake person I’ve seen. Mikie McCoys actions that day were extremely suspicious to put it mildly. All of them have benefited more than anyone from Charlie’s death.
There are also some strange things going on with their tax filing and financials.
The event itself was scheduled very quickly in comparison to other events. It does typically take more time to schedule something where thousands of people will be.
One of the employees took the card from the camera.

None of these things may have anything to do with his actual death but certainly raise suspicion.



+100. One of the best overviews and justification for cynicism and suspicion I've seen here regarding what appears like a hastily scripted and performed op. Kinda like a psychological "Shock & Awe".

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Candace may be off her rocker but this blind following of the narrative we’ve been given is also insane


Spot on again.

The "official" narrative was accepted completely within a conspicuous 33 hours (the time-frame at which Kash was said it took to "solve" the crime.) We were told the arrest of the perp was aided and abetted by the alleged "shooter" dad?? ) Very convenient.

99% of the podcasters and influencers agreed on the narrative, no questions asked. CASE CLOSED (Exception: for CO. She was and remains very uncooperative. )

More:

-- Immediate desecration of an active crime-scene. People casually walking around an un-taped off tent area as though they were wrapping up a carnival event

-- ZERO video shared from the back camera (or any other camera angle except unfocused vid from "onlookers")

-- Entire crime scene was immediately paved over

-- CK jumped on immediately by his entourage, falling back into a pit of sorts. Then "CK" (?) was wisked away like a sack of potatoes and shoved into a black SUV

-- CK's "Pastor" has an interesting military employment history

-- Yes, the wife. Where would we start?? Terrible actress.

-- CK was popular. But so popular that US Presidents, foreign Presidents, VPs, Tucker, CO, and nearly every single podcaster and "influencer" were friendly with him?

-- Funeral seemed to be a too carefully choreographed over-the-top Hollywood production

-- CK's recent Izreal-influence issue, opinion, and fear of "offending" was conspicuous.

Of course there are questions about the actual "shooting" based on inferior video sources.




Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2592 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:34 am to
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There's plenty of info available. It just depends on which camp it's coming from and which narrative you believe...

...They're never going to let the truth out without sowing doubt by discrediting it from 50 different angles.

Don't expect any key players to be named in whatever redacted version we get of the Epstein files, either.


Yep and yup.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125448 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 3:45 pm to
You forgot to tell us who the shooter is.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6129 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 4:04 pm to
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Starting in early 2024 she started to lose her mind and it's only gotten worse as time has gone on.


I see her posts a lot and I always wonder what % is grift because she knows she can play to a certain amount of nutjobs and how much of it is her being absolutely fricking bonkers. She has to have a good amount of crazy to cook up some of the shite she does.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14672 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 4:21 pm to
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I dont know what all Candace is claiming....but i dont believe the official narrative.
No autppsy released, no bullet shown, stills of videos, short clips of videos shown ro sell their story. A 30-06 round would definitely have an exit wound.
Im not buying it.


There's no "official narrative" until the evidence is presented at trial. The investigating bodies aren't feeding evidence to the YouTube influencers LMAO
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 4:21 pm
Posted by phutureisyic
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2016
3544 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 4:22 pm to
What the hell happened to this chick?
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2592 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:52 pm to
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You forgot to tell us who the shooter is.


No I didn't. But I'll tell you who it ain't with 99% accuracy: The Patsy (who was "apprehended" magically "33 hours later. Ooof. That nonsense alone blows a hole through the entire story. Then again, a Mac Truck can be driven through the entire official yarn.

You've obviously perused the detail inconsistencies and inquiries that fail to pass the smell test (to cynics).

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Few questions for you; maybe you can share some insight that some of us have missed:

How do you know for sure there IS a "shooter"?

How was it determined by observers within seconds that the caliber round was "30 OTT"?

Why ZERO blood-splatter within the booth? (and none on CK's white shirt.)

What of the immediate and casual lingering contamination by passerbys of the crime scene? Why wasn't it locked down ASAP and taped off by State Police? (SOME-body also ordered the site paved OVER it within weeks.) Odd, no?

Where is the video taken by the video cam in BACK of CK and the entourage?

Did you know a reservation for the funeral venue was made months in advance??

Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2592 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 6:09 pm to
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There's no "official narrative" until the evidence is presented at trial.


But there is indeed a precise "public narrative". Or else why would everybody's favorite evil kook and liar be catching so much flak? Are skeptics not permitted to scrutinize the event narrative and poke around at this entire mysterious circus?

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The investigating bodies aren't feeding evidence to the YouTube influencers LMAO


But they have been feeding everyone (including you and I and this forum) a carefully laid out, "acceptable" narrative.

How can you be so sure the "investigative bodies" (whomever THEY are) would tell the public serfs the truth to any extent?

As the poster you responded to explained -- the following has still NOT been explained to the public:

Why NO autopsy results released? no bullet round was displayed? no video clips? and why no splatters of blood were witnessed during or after impact from a 30 OTT round? ( For starters).
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