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re: Kash and Ratcliffe release documents proving FBI planted evidence during Mar a Lago Raid

Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:55 am to
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:55 am to
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In the literal example to which I replied, I criticized them vociferously


:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:55 am to
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No one respects your opinions here.


Kiwihead does.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:56 am to
Grassley acting like he gives a frick.
Posted by fairweatherfans
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:19 am to
And I found another retard that still believes the 2020 election was stolen.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:20 am to
Says the retard that keeps starting Drumpf 2028 threads.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466649 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:25 am to
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If it is now determined to be made up and planted that changes the narrative - correct

The probable cause? No

PC comes before the search

The planting issue comes during the search

They're not really related, conceptually


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466649 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:26 am to
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No one respects your opinions here.


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That's also a fricking lie.


Considering you can't tell lies from reality, your confusion as to the value of my opinion isn't shocking.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:46 am to
It was all fake, yet you still can't see it.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:55 am to
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probable cause? No PC comes before the search The planting issue comes during the search They're not really related, conceptually


In a murder case if the probable cause is based upon the gun that I planted that would come at the same time would it not

This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 10:58 am
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10392 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:58 am to
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Probably the most stupid take I've ever seen on TD, and that is saying a lot. Because my government is corrupt and doesn't hold the elite and political elite accountable I should leave everyone I love and the country that I love.


I think he's saying to do more than talk on the internet if you feel nothing is being done. If you want change, you have to make the people in power uncomfortable. Complaining on tigerdroppings isn't going to cut it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466649 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:00 am to
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In a murder case if the probable cause is based upon the gun that I planted that would come at the same time would it not


Now you're conflating PC. We were discussing PC for search warrants. Your above example is PC for an arrest.

Similar to the MAL search scenario. The issue being discussed yesterday was the PC for the search.

This new allegation of planting evidence would relate to the PC for the later arrest. While it uses the term "probable cause", it's not really directly related to the search aspect of the case.
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 11:00 am
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26142 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:01 am to
The whole thing was political BS Counselor. If The Jack Smith Stasi had such a slam dunk to invade Mar a Lago, then why isn't be resting on his laurels as a left wing hero today?

If it were so very necessary to do this, then why isn't Jack being hailed as the savior of our Democracy?

Because it was bullshite. No there there.Whatever they were really looking for, they didn't find it.

The Marxists have used two Special Prosecutors, massive FBI investigations, other phony prosecutions, bimbo eruptions, unconstitutional FISA warrants, two ridiculous impeachments two assassination attempts(that we know of) and ongoing continuous civil violence to try and stop Donald Trump.

When is enough enough? I think he's entitled to yell bullshite.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466649 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:05 am to
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If The Jack Smith Stasi had such a slam dunk to invade Mar a Lago, then why isn't be resting on his laurels as a left wing hero today?


I mean he's low key begging for a public hearing with Congress, and Republicans are forcing a closed-door deposition instead. That should tell you something about how he feels about the case and how Congressional Republicans feel about his testimony.

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If it were so very necessary to do this, then why isn't Jack being hailed as the savior of our Democracy?

That is a histrionic strawman

In no way was the worst possible interpretation of this event in any way a threat to our democracy. It would be Trump illegally possessing national security/classified documents after his term in office, with some possible obstruction during the investigation.

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Whatever they were really looking for, they didn't find it.

Naw they found documents and behaviors by Trump (as a private citizen) that could lead to conviction.

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I think he's entitled to yell bullshite.

You're never allowed to lie to "yell bullshite". That just means you're producing your own bullshite.
Posted by theronswanson
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:09 am to
Can we see the actual documents please?
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:39 am to
11 post melt is the longest i've ever seen by a mile, bravo!

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Another "conspiracy theory," proven true.

where are you getting the idea that any of this rage bait was proven true?
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26142 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:57 am to
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Naw they found documents and behaviors by Trump (as a private citizen) that could lead to conviction.


Talk about grasping for straws.....I hope Jack enjoys that hearing today. COULD lead to conviction....They either found something worth the fuss, or they didn't. The record shows they didn't get the result they wanted so..ME one you none.

The bottom line counselor...Jack Smith LOST. For whatever reason his vendetta FAILED Jack didn't get the job done.

It's a cliche yes but when you go after the King you better get him, Jack didn't. Whatever happens I won't feel sorry for the crooked son of a bitch.
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
6133 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:40 pm to
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I think he's saying to do more than talk on the internet if you feel nothing is being done. If you want change, you have to make the people in power uncomfortable. Complaining on tigerdroppings isn't going to cut it.


Well that's a big ole no shite. You gonna join my militia and march to Washington with me so we can take it back? Voting will not change a fricking thing in this country, nothing. The political elite will never be held accountable because the ones to hold them accountable are just as compromised. The agencies like the FBI, CIA, and the DOJ will never do anything to hold the political elite responsible.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7922 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 1:41 pm to
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Now you're conflating PC. We were discussing PC for search warrants. Your above example is PC for an arrest


I am, admittedly, not a criminal lawyer

However if I go to the court and say I need a search warrant because I think a gun that committed the murder was on the property would that not be the probable cause to issue the search warrant

Then if the gun is found on the property that would be probable cause for an arrest

If I am wrong on this and there are other criminal attorneys that can enlighten me but if I lied about the opportunity to search the property that seems to be a big deal to me
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:32 pm to
of course
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19325 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:34 pm to
Anyone want to bet nothing happens to anyone that allowed this?
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