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re: Kamala is still calibrating and evolving

Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:35 pm to
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Kamala has no actual beliefs.



Obama 2.0


Like Obama, she is another red diaper baby with only the shallowest roots in America.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:36 pm to
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he's beholden to law and order types.


The positions aren't mutually exclusive.

I'm all for locking up people who harm others. I also want to make sure we got the right guy. And they have the right to go free once they pay their debt to society.

He could also point out that he gave us the First Step Act. "I want to lock up murderers. Kamala wants to let murderers go free and lock up potheads."
Posted by SCLibertarian
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:36 pm to
You're trying to compare two people whose views on one person evolved versus a candidate for President who literally holds almost none of the same views she claimed to just 4 years ago?
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19263 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:37 pm to
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Wait this is wrong now?

The most liberal senator of 2019. Most of her positions are aligned with Socialist Bernie Sanders. You know all of this, you are just playing contrarian like always, lol. Her positions are insane. You heard all of the sound bites from just 4 years ago. It’s a complete 180. She doesn’t even have enough respect for the voters to articulate why she changed.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:38 pm to
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He can't even do the "state v. federal" meme that MAGA likes to use to avoid doing what you (and I, for that matter) suggested, b/c she was a state-level prosecutor.


What are you even babbling about, Spectrum?

A dirty prosecutor is a dirty prosecutor, regardless of level. He can damn sure attack that, given that he’s been attacked at all levels.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:40 pm to
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Wait this is wrong now?

Not necessarily, if she can articulate her thoughts and how they’ve changed. I’ve seen no evidence she can.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465158 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:41 pm to
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You're trying to compare two people whose views on one person evolved versus a candidate for President who literally holds almost none of the same views she claimed to just 4 years ago?

It's a tomato tomato scenario.

I don't think any of their views "evolved"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:41 pm to
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The most liberal senator of 2019. Most of her positions are aligned with Socialist Bernie Sanders. You know all of this, you are just playing contrarian like always, lol.

You clearly don't understand the reference.

I'm not claiming Kamala is being genuine, to make it more clear for you

This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 12:42 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:44 pm to
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What are you even babbling about, Spectrum?

OK I will break it down for you

I agree with you, and have made that argument.

The most knee-jerk response is trying to distinguish Trump's prosecutions as "federal" as opposed to the more noble state variety.

Since Kamala was a state-level prosecutor, they can't attempt to use this meme.

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He can damn sure attack that, given that he’s been attacked at all levels.

He won't, though, b/c that will be taken as a direct threat by the Back the Blue types and outlets like the National Sheriff's Association, which he leans heavily on

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87395 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:44 pm to
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I'm not claiming Kamala is being genuine, to make it more clear for you


Before you edited it, this post said you weren’t claiming Kamala was grifting.

I don’t think you know which positions you actually hold. You’re just doing what you do. You just word salad your way around all sides of an argument so that even when you’re wrong, you can still claim that you’re right.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19263 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:45 pm to
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quote: I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical a-hole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler JD Vance

JD has answered this question. He explained himself. You absolutely do not have to be satisfied with the answer. You don’t have to accept it. I don’t care. Kamala has taken no hard questions and hasn’t answered anything. The entire media is protecting her except maybe Fox News and some podcasts. You can dislike Trump, but don’t ever accuse him of being afraid to put himself in front of people who will attack him. If Kamala wants to be president she shouldn’t be able to hide from all questions while people defend her. It seems right now the presidency is vacant and nobody is talking about it. No interviews or press conferences. Nothing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465158 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:45 pm to
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Before you edited it, this post said you weren’t claiming Kamala was grifting.

Yes I realized the mistake, hence the edit.

I also corrected a spelling error.

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I don’t think you know which positions you actually hold.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294735 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:46 pm to
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Her positions are insane.


When youre so far off center, Kamala seems normal.

Thats the basic bitch crew. They've drifted so far they cant recognize "fringe' anymore,

Because their "peer group" approves.

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87395 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:46 pm to
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:blackhelicopter:


Not a response
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 12:47 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465158 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:47 pm to
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You can dislike Trump, but don’t ever accuse him of being afraid to put himself in front of people who will attack him.

I have never accused him of such.

Nor have I ever implied the DEM-coordinated media didn't run cover for DEMs.

Calling out people for "evolution" is a rocky road, though. Lots of grifters in MAGA-land
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465158 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:48 pm to
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Not a response

I had already responded

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Yes I realized the mistake, hence the edit.

I also corrected a spelling error.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112185 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:49 pm to
Changing opinions about a PERSON is vastly different that changing POLITICAL POSITIONS/POLICIES
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465158 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:51 pm to
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Changing opinions about a PERSON is vastly different that changing POLITICAL POSITIONS/POLICIES

When that person is a politician, it's not really different at all in almost every scenario.

JD Vance disagreed with Trump's policies, which implies his were different

Same as Tucker

Same as all the other grifters who pulled 180s (or at least 90s) to get support from MAGAland.

*ETA: if you're some guy from NY/NJ that thinks Trump screwed him over in a business deal in the 80s/90s, than yeah that's not political
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 12:53 pm
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 12:58 pm to
What’s the point of trolling this thread?
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 1:02 pm to
After researching her statements and history, it is clear she never actually proposed “defunding” the police. . She did suggest that significant reform was needed.
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