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re: Kamala Harris smashes fundraising record with stunning $81 million haul (Update: $100M)
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:15 pm to DallasTiger11
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:15 pm to DallasTiger11
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We all know Kamala would not be the nominee if the democrats has a fair and democratic nominating process.
What is unfair about unpledged delegates deciding to support Harris?
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Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:16 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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What is unfair about unpledged delegates deciding to support Harris?
The election is decided by a couple thousand people instead of tens of millions.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:18 pm to DallasTiger11
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The election is decided by a couple thousand people instead of tens of millions.
The few thousand delegates always made the choice.
The primaries already happened. They can't redo them now. The delegates are chosen. Those unpledged delegates are deciding who they want to support.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:19 pm to DallasTiger11
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It also erased any assassination bump too. We are basically reset in this race to before the shooting and the convention. Polls will tighten to about where they were going into the debate. Democrats are diabolical.
In a fair election it will come down to who can motivate their base and get people to the polls. I'd say Trump supports are very motivated based on all of the polls pre-Biden announcement. Pay particular attention to the latest polls and how they attempt to frame the race. Of note in the latest Morning Consult national poll, read this gem and decide for yourself if this makes any sense:
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Most voters (63%) say Biden should serve out the remainder of his term, compared with 30% who said he should resign now. When it comes to Trump, Biden’s exit appears to have prompted soul-searching among some GOP voters: 27% said Trump should be replaced as the GOP nominee, up slightly from a week ago.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:19 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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What is unfair about unpledged delegates deciding to support Harris?
Have you admitted your party is completely cutting out its own voters in the name of defending democracy from the bad orange man?
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:23 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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What is unfair about unpledged delegates deciding to support Harris?
Your party told the country Joe Biden was physically fit. Your party told the country Joe Biden was mentally fit. Your party rigged the primary to prevent any opposition from challenging Biden. As such, your primary voters voted for a man who is all but dead. When it became clear that your party's candidate had no chance to win, your party effectively engaged in a palace coup to appoint a replacement, despite its claims to love democracy and transparency. You cannot claim to be saving democracy and simultaneously allow a dozen or so megadonors and political elites to choose who you run as a candidate. That you would defend it reveals your character as well, or lack thereof.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:35 pm to SCLibertarian
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your party rigged the primary to prevent any opposition from challenging Biden.
How so?
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your party effectively engaged in a palace coup to appoint a replacement
Refusing to donate to Biden and pushing him to drop out equates to a coup?
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You cannot claim to be saving democracy and simultaneously allow a dozen or so megadonors and political elites to choose who you run as a candidate.
Not sure how many times I have to say this, but political parties can make any rule they want in how they choose their candidate. Delegates choose the candidate, and they still get to do so.
Democracy plays out in November. Political parties have primaries to help them decide who the best candidate is for November. They could decide to not have them at all, but risk putting bad candidates on the ballot. They could also have primaries, ignore the results, and put their own choice on the ballot. They then risk alienating their voters.
All of that plays out in November. If what they have done is so egregious, it will show by the lack of voters turning out for Harris in November.
This post was edited on 7/23/24 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:39 pm to Mickey Goldmill
You keep playing the "legal" card. You're right in the sense that parties have their own process. But we're talking about the morality of a backroom process to choose a candidate when your party never misses a chance to moralize about democracy. Why isn't it as important for Democrat voters to choose their own candidate as it is for Americans to choose their own candidate in a general election? There's a rank hypocrisy in constantly preaching about democracy and yet eschewing it in your own candidate selection process.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:49 pm to SCLibertarian
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There's a rank hypocrisy in constantly preaching about democracy and yet eschewing it in your own candidate selection process.
She was elected as VP on a Biden-Harris ticket by millions of voters. Voters knew that by electing a 78-year-old man to be President, Kamala would likely have to step in at some point.
That's democratic.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:50 pm to Mickey Goldmill
That’s 10% of all that money Biden sent the Ukraine circling back.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:51 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Get ‘em, Mickey. Kamala is going to protect trans rights and keep our disability benefits rolling.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:53 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Democracy plays out in November.
So this is the talking point Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:54 pm to CAPEX
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She was elected as VP on a Biden-Harris ticket by millions of voters. Voters knew that by electing a 78-year-old man to be President, Kamala would likely have to step in at some point.
That's democratic.
The stupidity of the left is on full display these last few postsPosted on 7/23/24 at 12:55 pm to CAPEX
Kamala polled at 1% in the Democrat Primaries in 2020 and didn't even make it to Iowa. If Democrats were honest about Biden's health a year ago and there was an open and fair primary, she would not be the nominee. That's a fact.
We were told a month ago this Biden was the best Biden and that his health was perfect and now you're saying Democrats knew all along she'd have to step in? Give me a break.
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Voters knew that by electing a 78-year-old man to be President, Kamala would likely have to step in at some point.
We were told a month ago this Biden was the best Biden and that his health was perfect and now you're saying Democrats knew all along she'd have to step in? Give me a break.
This post was edited on 7/23/24 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:55 pm to SCLibertarian
Anyone else in the Democratic Party can run right now if they want to. They can stump and try to get the delegates to support them.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:55 pm to NIH
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Get ‘em, Mickey. Kamala is going to protect trans rights and keep our disability benefits rolling.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:59 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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What is unfair about unpledged delegates deciding to support Harris?
You didn’t even run a real primary. Kamala wouldn’t have won one either.
White dudes like rfk and Phillips would have wiped the floor with her.
You basically blocked a primary and will now pick for the people. Remember, democrats said the problem with our democracy is the voters.
This post was edited on 7/23/24 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 7/23/24 at 1:03 pm to Mickey Goldmill
It’s not stunning in the least. It was widely reported that a lot of Democratic donors were refusing to donate to the party unless Biden was replaced. That’s half the reason why Biden was replaced. Now Biden has been replaced, so they’re donating en masse.
What’s ridiculous is how the media is implying that they’re giving the donations specifically because of Kamala. They’re really giving the donations just because Biden was replaced. They would be giving the donations regardless of who Biden’s replacement was.
What’s ridiculous is how the media is implying that they’re giving the donations specifically because of Kamala. They’re really giving the donations just because Biden was replaced. They would be giving the donations regardless of who Biden’s replacement was.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 1:04 pm to dgnx6
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You didn’t even run a real primary.
I keep seeing this. How so?
Posted on 7/23/24 at 1:05 pm to Tigerroar73
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It’s not stunning in the least. It was widely reported that a lot of Democratic donors were refusing to donate to the party unless Biden was replaced. That’s half the reason why Biden was replaced. Now Biden has been replaced, so they’re donating en masse.
What’s ridiculous is how the media is implying that they’re giving the donations specifically because of Kamala. They’re really giving the donations just because Biden was replaced. They would be giving the donations regardless of who Biden’s replacement was.
Agreed. The end result is the same though.
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