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re: Justice Dept found North Carolina DMV registering illegal aliens to vote…
Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:51 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:51 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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but the number of votes by illegals occurring as a result of the practice is minuscule.
Every illegal vote disenfranchises legal voters.
One is too many.
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:52 pm to TBoy
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Out of the millions of registered voters, the total of legal noncitizens that were found to have been registered to vote were SIX (6) PEOPLE.
The investigation also found that none of the SIX (6) LEGALLY PRESENT non-citizens who were registered to vote ever voted. They didn't even know they were registered.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:53 pm to Placekicker
The DNC will sue to keep them registered.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:53 pm to mtntiger
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Dems don't need the illegals to vote. Those registrations are placeholders for someone else to use the illegal registrations to cast votes in their stead.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:59 pm to TBoy
You should see who picks up our freight you cuck. You have no f clue what your talking about.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:01 pm to SallysHuman
quote:Even you certainly must acknowledge that there IS a point at which preventing a single illegal vote is not justified by the marginal time, treasure and outrage to prevent it.
Every illegal vote disenfranchises legal voters. One is too many.
What is that cost/point? $1mm? $100mm? a billion?
Given the minuscule numbers of actual votes, I think we have already passed that point.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:05 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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Even you certainly must acknowledge that there IS a point at which preventing a single illegal vote is not justified by the marginal time, treasure and outrage to prevent it.
No. All illegal votes must be prevented.
The only reason it costs treasure and time is because some states and municipalities refuse to guard the election process and, in fact, do all they can to stymie legitimate efforts to safeguard the electorate.
That's akin to saying we should just let all violent felonies plead down because it costs too much to bring violent offenders to justice... oh, wait, some states and municipalities also do that.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:06 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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Even you certainly must acknowledge that there IS a point at which preventing a single illegal vote is not justified by the marginal time, treasure and outrage to prevent it.
Absolutely fu**ing not
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:12 pm to Placekicker
The only way to keep this shite from happening is to make election fraud a capitol crime.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:14 pm to SallysHuman
quote:One trillion dollars to prevent one single, solitary illegal vote. A quadrillion dollars? You do that deal? Seriously? Do you have any idea how irrational that is?
No. All illegal votes must be prevented.
quote:Nothing like that at all. No one is saying that we should not prosecute those who violate the law.
That's akin to saying we should just let all violent felonies plead down because it costs too much to bring violent offenders to justice
The question is how MANY sets of belts and suspenders are you willing to put in place (and pay for), and what do they cost, to prevent something that is too minuscule to have any substantive effect on any election.
Jaywalking is illegal, and we COULD spend enough money to make it physically impossible. But the result simply does not justify the cost. (No, I am NOT saying that jaywalking is the same as illegal voting. It is called an analogy, not an identity).
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:18 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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Nothing like that at all. No one is saying that we should not prosecute those who violate the law.
Good, glad we are agreed on this. Casting an illegal vote is, well, illegal.
Everything else you said is malarkey.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:20 pm to real turf fan
So we have you on record with it being ok that illegals vote? Got it
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:23 pm to lsusteve1
quote:THAT is the interesting question on this topic.
Gonna just ignore the part about NC registering them?
There are competing values in play. On one hand is the possibility of voting fraud. On the other hand is convenience for millions of eligible voters.
Personally, I do not put much stock in the convenience argument. IMO, both registering AND voting should be a tad inconvenient, to weed out some of the uninformed and disinterested potential voters.
But that is an entirely different discussion.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:26 pm to SallysHuman
quote:Let's get a clear record.
Good, glad we are agreed on this. Casting an illegal vote is, well, illegal.
Do you think it reasonable to spend (let's be conservative) one billion dollars to prevent a single illegal vote? What about one trillion dollars versus a single vote?
Two simple questions. Yes or no to each.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:27 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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Do you think it reasonable to spend (let's be conservative) one billion dollars to prevent a single illegal vote? What about one trillion dollars versus a single vote?
Do you think this is the true cost of safeguarding ballots?
It is a ridiculous premise.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:31 pm to SallysHuman
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and surely they didn't vote, right?
That's probably the catch. They'd tell them not to vote, cause it would be done for them. DMV probably kept an actual list to give dems
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:32 pm to SallysHuman
quote:No. I am trying to show that there IS a point (even for you) at which the result does not justify the cost.
Do you think it reasonable to spend (let's be conservative) one billion dollars to prevent a single illegal vote? What about one trillion dollars versus a single vote?quote:
Do you think this is the true cost of safeguarding ballots?
I find it entertaining that you refuse to acknowledge so-obvious a point. It establishes that good faith discussion with you is pointless. You are apparently incapable of acknowledging ANY common ground.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:32 pm to TBoy
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The investigation also found that none of the SIX (6) LEGALLY PRESENT non-citizens who were registered to vote ever voted. They didn't even know they were registered.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:35 pm to ChatGPT of LA
quote:Do you really believe that the researchers did NOT check those voting registrations against voting records to confirm that those registrations were NOT used? Just ... wow.quote:That's probably the catch. They'd tell them not to vote, cause it would be done for them. DMV probably kept an actual list to give dems
and surely they didn't vote, right?
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:35 pm to TBoy
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Out of the millions of registered voters, the total of legal noncitizens that were found to have been registered to vote were SIX (6) PEOPLE.
One is one too many. I thought every vote mattered? I guess not?
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 3:36 pm
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