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Just a fun link hinting at why all the NN discussions are hilariously out of date
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:57 am
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:57 am
Google Fiber sheds workers as they look towards a wireless future.
The entire NN debate is silly. It so lacks forward thinking as to be almost painful.
The big dogs know the deal. So ask yourself. If Google believes wireless is the future........and wireless doesn't have the same barriers to entry that hard lines have......why is Google such a big advocate of NN?
I'll let you ruminate on that for a bit.
The NN debate is like when people honest to God thought if Blockbuster bought Hollywood video it would be a "monopoly".
I'll give you a hint. They understand the implications of an all wireless internet in terms of competition............for THEM!
The entire NN debate is silly. It so lacks forward thinking as to be almost painful.
The big dogs know the deal. So ask yourself. If Google believes wireless is the future........and wireless doesn't have the same barriers to entry that hard lines have......why is Google such a big advocate of NN?
I'll let you ruminate on that for a bit.
The NN debate is like when people honest to God thought if Blockbuster bought Hollywood video it would be a "monopoly".
I'll give you a hint. They understand the implications of an all wireless internet in terms of competition............for THEM!
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 8:59 am
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:01 am to ShortyRob
LOL
Downvoters scared to post because of how dumb they look.
Downvoters scared to post because of how dumb they look.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:04 am to ShortyRob
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Google Fiber sheds workers as they look towards a wireless future. The entire NN debate is silly. It so lacks forward thinking as to be almost painful. The big dogs know the deal. So ask yourself. If Google believes wireless is the future........and wireless doesn't have the same barriers to entry that hard lines have......why is Google such a big advocate of NN? I'll let you ruminate on that for a bit. The NN debate is like when people honest to God thought if Blockbuster bought Hollywood video it would be a "monopoly". I'll give you a hint. They understand the implications of an all wireless internet in terms of competition............for THEM!
5G is the endgame for all major carriers, field costs are ridiculously low compared to fiber/copper. T is already running 5G in selected trials and they are getting over 1 gig download speeds. T is also offering 5G home routers for their 5G service allowing the customer to access 5G without using their smartphone's hotspot.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:06 am to ShortyRob
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Downvoters scared to post because of how dumb they look
It's really odd. I think this is a complicated issue, but not materially different than any other discussion on regulation in that it's better to have less government involvement than more. If one form of government caused the problem, another form of government has almost no chance to solve it. To me the long term effects are obvious and not positive.
The hysteria from the proponents honestly makes me wonder if we have a bunch of horn balls who are worried pornhub is going to be throttled and they'll have to go to Comcast and ask for the perv package. And that scares the shite out of them.
It's my only explanation for the hysteria really.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:08 am to Bass Tiger
Sorry, who is T?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:11 am to ShortyRob
Wired internet service into homes is going the way of the outhouse. It won't be a part of our home environment in the future.
That's why I just shake my head and laugh at the drama queens on here who believe that households will only have high speed internet service if there is a wire running into their residence.
Hell, now when my Cox internet service is disrupted, I just switch over to my AT&T data plan on my iPad. I don't notice a single bit of difference in the service. Sometimes I forget to switch back until I look in the upper left hand for the wi-fi symbol on my device and see the cellular data link symbol instead.
That's why I just shake my head and laugh at the drama queens on here who believe that households will only have high speed internet service if there is a wire running into their residence.
Hell, now when my Cox internet service is disrupted, I just switch over to my AT&T data plan on my iPad. I don't notice a single bit of difference in the service. Sometimes I forget to switch back until I look in the upper left hand for the wi-fi symbol on my device and see the cellular data link symbol instead.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:12 am to Ambassador
I assume Tmobile
ETA: I assumed wrong
ETA: I assumed wrong
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 9:17 am
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:12 am to Turbeauxdog
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It's really odd. I think this is a complicated issue, but not materially different than any other discussion on regulation
The problem pro-regulation people have in these discussion............as in EVERY case in all of history.........is that they think that because they cannot figure out HOW the market will overcome the hurdles they see, that the market CANNOT overcome the hurdles they see.
They also have a huge problem with the fact that they always seem to see the world in snapshot.
People who thought Blockbuster was a "monopoly" thought the idea that online would never compete with them was absurd. I was INVOLVED in those conversations!! It was hilarious then too.
But, to add to my OP. A couple of key indicators(which are helpful when playing stocks I might add) are this.
The big dogs typically tell you with their actions if you look closely. And EVERY big dog in the ISP world.......and I mean EVERY SINGLE ONE......is focused on a wireless future.
Bookmark this thread. I've been on the board 9 years.
If I'm still here 9 years from now, it will already be becoming apparent that today's hard lines are 2005's Blockbuster video.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:13 am to LSURussian
quote:I can't believe supposedly technical people don't know this. It's like they're in their own silo and can't see out of it.
Wired internet service into homes is going the way of the outhouse.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:15 am to Ambassador
quote:"T" is the stock symbol for AT&T.
Sorry, who is T?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:15 am to Ambassador
quote:
Sorry, who is T?
Who is T? T is only the most hated ISP/carrier on the planet if you want net neutrality and believe that the sinnernet is a right and the government should force companies to give it to you at cost. AT+T
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 9:16 am
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:31 am to ShortyRob
So the internet will be wireless.
Still not sure what that has to do with regulating its content and the providers of said content.
Spell it out for us idiots, Shorty
Still not sure what that has to do with regulating its content and the providers of said content.
Spell it out for us idiots, Shorty
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:37 am to JuiceTerry
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Spell it out for us idiots, Shorty
Because wireless doesnt require cronyism to grant right of ways and guarantees of protectionism, the barriers to entry will be minimal there will be more market participants to punish bad actors through competition.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:38 am to JuiceTerry
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So the internet will be wireless. Still not sure what that has to do with regulating its content and the providers of said content. Spell it out for us idiots, Shorty
Well. Wireless has FAR lower barriers to entry. Just sayin.......
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:39 am to Turbeauxdog
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Because wireless doesnt require cronyism to grant right of ways and guarantees of protectionism, the barriers to entry will be minimal there will be more market participants to punish bad actors through competition.
You can put the spoon in their mouth, but you can't make them eat.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:42 am to Turbeauxdog
You nailed it but he's too stupid to waste time educating him.
I'm sure you know JuiceWit is one of the most fervent supporters of the "Big Government is better" mentality.
He cannot comprehend anything that requires understanding how market forces work more efficiently than government regulations.
I'm sure you know JuiceWit is one of the most fervent supporters of the "Big Government is better" mentality.
He cannot comprehend anything that requires understanding how market forces work more efficiently than government regulations.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:43 am to ShortyRob
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You can put the spoon in their mouth, but you can't make them eat.
I've said this since the beginning.
Net neutrality grants permanency to mediocrity. It's going to raise cost and push people out of the market. We need to let the temporary shittyness of this cronyism manifest itself to hasten wireless broadband and kill the frickfaced giant service providers.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:45 am to Turbeauxdog
These people who hate Comcast are guaranteeing they are going to give Comcast more of their money.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:45 am to ShortyRob
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Well. Wireless has FAR lower barriers to entry. Just sayin.......
The only major issue a startup will face is acquiring spectrum, it's possible the FCC/government could pull a similar ruling like the 1996 Telecom Act and force the major carriers to share spectrum.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 9:47 am
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:48 am to LSURussian
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I'm sure you know JuiceWit is one of the most fervent supporters of the "Big Government is better" mentality.
You're a senile old goat who's next original thought will be his first 
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